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#107: CF Data Model 1.7
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  Reporter:  markh           |      Owner:  cf-conventions@…
      Type:  task            |     Status:  new
  Priority:  medium          |  Milestone:
 Component:  cf-conventions  |    Version:
Resolution:                  |   Keywords:
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Comment (by biard):

 Replying to [comment:67 jonathan]:
 > Dear Jim and Mark
 >
 > The text David and I proposed was
 >
 >   The cell methods construct describes the methods by which the data
 values of the field construct represent variation within their cells.
 >
 > and Jim proposes
 >
 >   The cell methods construct describes the methods by which the data
 values of the field construct are derived from a source measurement field
 (which may or may not be represented by an existing field construct).
 >
 > With respect to the differences between these, I would comment:
 >
 >   1. CF doesn't only deal with measurements (which sounds like obs), so
 I don't think the word "measurement" should appear.
 >
 >   2. I think "derived" is too general. The reason for writing
 "variation" in our definition is because all of the cell methods do that,
 by calculating a statistic from the variation, or by indicating it has no
 relevant variation because it is a point (intensive) or a sum (extensive).
 I think this needs to be indicated by the wording. "Derived" could mean
 all sorts of mathematical operation which are not encompassed by
 `cell_methods`.
 >
 >   3. I don't see the parenthesis as really necessary, and I'm not sure
 it's true. The source field may never have existed. If it's a point or
 sum, then probably there was no source field. This field is the data, and
 `cell_methods` tells us something about what it means.
 >
 > Best wishes
 >
 > Jonathan
 Jonathan,

 I'm not overly concerned with the specific wording used.  The thing I was
 trying to get at was the question that the cell_methods attribute is
 answering, which seems to me to be, "What algorithm did I apply to get
 from a set of input values to the set of output values stored within this
 variable?"  If the cell_method is "point", then the algorithm is a null
 transform.  If the answer is sum, then there was a sum; if mean, an
 average; etc.  In some cases the input values are found in another
 variable within the file.  In other cases the input values are not found
 within the file, and may not have been preserved anywhere.

 Describing cell_methods in entirely self-referential terms comes across to
 me as quite awkward, as you are trying to talk about an input-output
 process without mentioning the input.

 Grace and peace,

 Jim
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