I'm actually wondering if some of the complaint about the 'speed' issue is 
what people are noticing when in development.  Let's face it, the debugger 
application is a hog for whatever it's doing.  Every now and then I turn 
off the debugger so I can get the real speed of what the end user is going 
to see and I think people are forgetting about that.

In a production environment, debugging shouldn't be turned on (in a 
perfect world, with the perfect qa environment, etc.).  Not all of us are 
disappointed with CFMX, but then... I dunno, not all of us is writing 
brand new code either.

~Todd


On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Jesse Noller wrote:

> The reason why you don't run into this with PHP, ASP, and JSP (actually, I avoid 
>JSP) is that they are interpreted languages, like the current CFML is sort of, and 
>the old CF was. 
> 
> You do get this with Perl. Perl requires compilation time. Actually, some of the 
>advanced CPAN/Perl/PHP stuff I've done lately does require an App compilation.
> 
> The fact of the matter is that while we provide you with CFML, a RAD development 
>language, which is then interpreted into Java bytecode, we have not left the RAD 
>ideal, in "my" mind, RAD is a style of language that allows you rapid development, 
>NOT taking into account the deployment of application, rather, I don't believe that 
>we "left" RAD behind due to JIT time. 
> 
> While it would be optimal to have all the benefits that we've garnered with CFMX 
>without the compile time, I believe the benefits we have gained outweigh the extra 
>10-20 seconds it takes to view a source page. You'd get the same thing with Perl. 
> 
> The CFML language is maturing, that's a fact of life. One of the biggest limitations 
>facing "RAD" languages such as PHP, or ASP even is the fact that there is a barrier 
>in their efficiency when trying to stick to the interpreted schema. PHP has even 
>realized this. 
> 
> That's why you have about 10 trillion PHP modules to bypass (or "expand") on the 
>limitations found in an interpreted language. By moving more towards a traditional 
>compile approach, we garner assets in regards to language expansion and integration, 
>and scalability.
> 
> The performance increase *is* noticeable in a production environment. Scalability is 
>the key. As a general rule, compiled and tuned binaries will almost ALWAYS outrun and 
>outperform interpreted command-driven applications of the same ilk. 
> 

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