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"Hello Stupid, and welcome to your crappy computer." - Strong Bad, HomestarRunner.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 12:19 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: It's official: CFMX is 10% faster than CF5 > > > cfhttp is a pos? Whats a pos? > > At 02:51 PM 26/07/02 -0400, you wrote: > >In two of my major apps that I've been able to test, both > >have seen about a 100% increase in page execution with a single user. > >Even with debugging on. I'm quite happy with the speed. > >My main beef with MX is the broken COM support, which means that I > >can't use MSXML, which I use all the time since cfhttp is a > pos. So we > >can't upgrade any servers, and have to wait for a new server to come > >online to install MX on. > > > >-- > > Jon > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Friday, July 26, 2002, 2:18:39 PM, you wrote: > >twrc> I'm actually wondering if some of the complaint about > the 'speed' > >issue is > >twrc> what people are noticing when in development. Let's > face it, the > >debugger > >twrc> application is a hog for whatever it's doing. Every > now and then I > >turn > >twrc> off the debugger so I can get the real speed of what > the end user is > >going > >twrc> to see and I think people are forgetting about that. > > > >twrc> In a production environment, debugging shouldn't be > turned on (in a > >twrc> perfect world, with the perfect qa environment, etc.). > Not all of > >us are > >twrc> disappointed with CFMX, but then... I dunno, not all > of us is writing > >twrc> brand new code either. > > > >twrc> ~Todd > > > > > >twrc> On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Jesse Noller wrote: > > > > >> The reason why you don't run into this with PHP, ASP, and JSP > > (actually, I avoid JSP) is that they are interpreted > languages, like the > > current CFML is sort of, and the old CF was. > > >> > > >> You do get this with Perl. Perl requires compilation > time. Actually, > > some of the advanced CPAN/Perl/PHP stuff I've done lately > does require an > > App compilation. > > >> > > >> The fact of the matter is that while we provide you with > CFML, a RAD > > development language, which is then interpreted into Java > bytecode, we > > have not left the RAD ideal, in "my" mind, RAD is a > > >> style of language that allows you rapid development, NOT > taking into > > account the deployment of application, rather, I don't > believe that we > > "left" RAD behind due to JIT time. > > >> > > >> While it would be optimal to have all the benefits that > we've garnered > > with CFMX without the compile time, I believe the benefits > we have gained > > outweigh the extra 10-20 seconds it takes to view a > > >> source page. You'd get the same thing with Perl. > > >> > > >> The CFML language is maturing, that's a fact of life. One of the > > biggest limitations facing "RAD" languages such as PHP, or > ASP even is > > the fact that there is a barrier in their efficiency when > > >> trying to stick to the interpreted schema. PHP has even > realized this. > > >> > > >> That's why you have about 10 trillion PHP modules to bypass (or > > "expand") on the limitations found in an interpreted > language. By moving > > more towards a traditional compile approach, we garner > > >> assets in regards to language expansion and integration, > and scalability. > > >> > > >> The performance increase *is* noticeable in a production > environment. > > Scalability is the key. As a general rule, compiled and > tuned binaries > > will almost ALWAYS outrun and outperform interpreted > > >> command-driven applications of the same ilk. > > >> > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
