Sean,

Ya know what, I am happy with CFMX so far, even though I've had a few 
struggles they are mostly to do with non-standard implementations. The 
other issues are more often than not already addressed in tech notes and 
this list has been helpful.

Now If I can just get those SES urls ending with a "/" to work I could take 
the weekend off and enjoy the Indy (its a block form my office here in 
Vancouver, and loud!!)

Brook

At 06:13 PM 26/07/02 -0700, you wrote:
>On Friday, July 26, 2002, at 04:06 , Alex Hubner wrote:
> > Sorry but I have a different opinion on that. The reality shows a
> > different thing, you can check it here, on MM support forums and all
> > over the place.
>
>Yes, I realize that some people are having some problems with some
>specific language features but I also hear lots of people who have nothing
>to complain about who are running their old apps on CFMX without a problem.
>   Think about it: who is going to post on a list? The people who aren't
>happy with CFMX! I don't think seeing posts from (many) happy people,
>saying "Hey, it works for me!", is going to improve anyone's humor in this
>area :)
>
>Now, I'm not saying there are *no* problems - I can see them here just
>fine (and on the other lists I'm on). I'm saying that there are relatively
>few problems (especially considering this is effectively a 'new' product).
>
> > People are not running CF5 applications 'just the
> > same' under CFMX, and they are complaining about - this thread is
> > about - it.
>
>*some* people are complaining (loudly) about a *few* problems. I don't
>want to belittle the problems people are having - for those people, these
>are show-stopping problems. Been there, done that. Not fun. I'm just
>trying to get a little perspective on the discussion.
>
> > SetEncoding... Well, asfaik this function doesn't work
> > with CF5 so it gives you three options: (1) your code only works for
> > CF5; (2) your code only works with CFMX or (3) put something like
> > that <CFIF CFVersion... EQ "5">Run this code<CFELSE>run that
> > code</CFIF>...
>
>And when people migrated from 4.5 to 5.0 they didn't have this problem?
>What about all the changes in that release?
>
>EVERY upgrade is going to cause *some* problems - that's the nature of
>software.
>
>Let's look at setEncoding() - for the most part, applications that run on
>CF5 today rely on the default encoding and should run without setEncoding(
>) on CFMX. Now, it may be that a CF5 application was relying on 'features'
>   in the default encoding handling in CF5 that are now exposed by the
>upgrade to CFMX and full Unicode support. Yes, that's very unfortunate but
>would you rather CFMX was performance-hobbled (and / or feature-hobbled)
>to reproduce that erroneous behavior?
>
> > i'm realy investing my time over CFMX and in a overall view I'm happy
> > with it. But there are issues, you know that.
>
>I'm glad you're happy overall. I think you are in the majority.
>
>Hopefully we can all work together to create a good repository of
>information where people upgrading from CF5 can go to quickly resolve
>those few problems that they may encounter.
>
> > Sorry, I don't like flames nor ego-treks in lists but your question
> > sounds pretty ironic. I'm gonna answer in case I'm wrong.
>
>It was a genuine question so I'm glad you're answering it...
>
> > I've tested two Fusebox applications that runs smoothly on CF5, I
> > ...[snip]...
> > talking about templates that takes, sometimes, 10-20 includes, which
> > are not rare in Fusebox. Yes, I saw CFMX running faster than CF5, but
> > not in this cases.
>
>OK, that's good to know - and unfortunate for the Fusebox community I
>suspect. Out of curiosity, were you running with Trusted Cache enabled? I
>also wonder how much memory was on the server - I've heard a few people
>express concern about the amount of memory Java takes (although I
>personally haven't experienced any problems).
>
>Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
>
>"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
>-- Margaret Atwood
>
>
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