Sean, I'm sorry. Re-reading you message I don't see any irony. Sorry 
my english sometimes traps me.

Abra�os!
Alex


> ---------- Mensagem original -----------
> 
> De      : "Alex Hubner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Para    : CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc      : 
> Data    : Fri, 26 Jul 2002 20:06:52 -0300
> Assunto : Re: It's official: CFMX is 10% faster than CF5
> 
> > ---------- Mensagem original -----------
> > 
> > De      : Sean A Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Well, I don't really think that's true. Compatibility with CF5 is 
pr
> etty 
> > good (especially considering CFMX is a complete rewrite!) so exist
in
> g CF5 
> > continue to run just the same.
> 
> Sorry but I have a different opinion on that. The reality shows a 
> different thing, you can check it here, on MM support forums and all
 
> over the place. People are not running CF5 applications 'just the 
> same' under CFMX, and they are complaining about - this thread is 
> about - it. To give you a quick example: CFOBJECT... or even a very 
> simple thing: SetEncoding... Well, asfaik this function doesn't work
 
> with CF5 so it gives you three options: (1) your code only works for
 
> CF5; (2) your code only works with CFMX or (3) put something like 
> that <CFIF CFVersion... EQ "5">Run this code<CFELSE>run that 
> code</CFIF>... Which reminds me the Netscape vs. IE times. Not a 
> great deal.
>  
> > The difference is that CFMX now *allows* you to care about text en
co
> dings 
> > are so on. For the first time, you can actually write a CF app tha
t 
> really 
> > understands locales and character set encodings and so on.
> 
> 
> I agree but, 'allowing' something means, most of the time, that you 
> can use it IF you want, not an obligation.
> 
> 
> > 
> > The simple stuff that worked in CF5 still works just the same in C
FM
> X. Did 
> > people criticize the introduction of UDFs in CF5 as making CFML mo
re
>  
> > complicated? Or did they cheer at the new functionality?
> 
> 
> Language improvements, adds and new features are totally different 
> from chaging the entire architeture. CFMX is facing some difficultie
s 
> on being aceptable by the general people (including very experienced
 
> ones) with cheers because of it. It brings a lot of new and good 
> things (I have no doubt about it), but those things fades in the 
> shadow when you see entire applications that runs just great in CF5 
> running slower and poorly under CFMX. This is not my particular case
, 
> i'm realy investing my time over CFMX and in a overall view I'm happ
y 
> with it. But there are issues, you know that.
> 
> 
> > Interestingly, at last night's BACFUG we did the regular "show of 
ha
> nds, 
> > who is using feature XYZ?" -
>  there were more CFers working with XML than 
> > using UDFs.
> > 
> > > To start with it I can say that I'm 99% convinced that FuseBox
> > > applications ... runs pretty much slower under CFMX than in CF5.
> > 
> > Why are you convinced of that? Just curious.
> 
> Sorry, I don't like flames nor ego-treks in lists but your question 
> sounds pretty ironic. I'm gonna answer in case I'm wrong.
> I've tested two Fusebox applications that runs smoothly on CF5, I 
> usualy doesn't perform very deep tests (sometimes I use MWAST to tes
t 
> the server behaviour within a specif template) but in a general 
> overview (including processing time, CPU consumption and so forth) I
 
> realize that CFMX suffer when dealings with multiple includes. Even 
> after loading, caching, etc, the times and resources used by CF5 are
 
> smaller than those with CFMX (yes, on the same server). See, I'm 
> talking about templates that takes, sometimes, 10-
20 includes, which 
> are not rare in Fusebox. Yes, I saw CFMX running faster than CF5, bu
t 
> not in this cases. This is my personal impressions and results... I 
> have no doubt that the same applications, using CFC's is going to 
> outerperforms the CF5 ones but, who's gonna pay me to re-write it?
> 
> > 
> > > [Fusebox] (a very high acceptable concept in "making good CF cod
e"
> )
> > 
> > Of course that depends on who you ask :)
> 
> Sure.
> 
> []'s
> Alex
> 
> 
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