I agree totally Dave... You always have the good insight...

DHTML, JS, and even Flash still aren't rapid...That's per se a problem...
Modular, it is perhaps.. still not ColdFusion modular I suspect... Flash is
universal in operation (mostly it seems)... Flash has a great potential for
the CD rom to the web sort of things... those who use it for web content
beware, I suspect major backlash will start happening...

Like the other day I was at weather.com... trying to see what the weather
was going to be... simple task right... not when a thing starts moving
across my screen... and before that, the wait of the Flash starting...

I imagine, turning Flash on and off selectively via browser or other setting
is going to become more common as it should...who knows, maybe it already
has...

I was recently looking at some mid 1980s stuff I wrote for my commodore when
I was programming BBS software. I wrote a bunch of code that effectively did
pseudo web stuff... at that time, sending a GIF over a slow 1200 or 2400
baud modem... Message forums were created back then too by me... nothing
radically different... content still...

Only benefit I see today is this multiple user environment we lacked back
then for live time interaction of groups.. Hell if I had a 300 MHz Commodore
and a 56k modem it probably would have been built...

Point here is, not a whole bunch has changed... Sure more graphics, more
bloat, faster processors, more bandwidth... Same general functions... Larger
audience... Nothing radically new...

UI is 'seemingly' important... well your clients will tell you that junk all
day long...Heck you might even believe it... The power is in the
information, the enabler is the application... Ask the folks at General
Motors who in the early 1990s hired design specialists... They claim they
can show not tangible benefit or loss attributable... basically, in the big
sense of things design matters very little. There are exceptions in markets
that stand out... but as an average, people still carry paper bags for
lunch, not Eames designed uber cool lunch boxes... People live in normal
houses, not Real World bachelor pads.. People drive Ford Taurus and Honda
Accord's not Lamborghini's... Design is a subtle art at best..

Flash holds great promise as a portal, a viewer for all devices... Providing
a one creation interface that runs on phones, PDAs, computers,
refrigerators, etc. is by far the most attractive feature of Flash, bar
none.

Paris Lundis
Founder
Areaindex, L.L.C.
http://www.areaindex.com
http://www.pubcrawler.com
(p) 1-212-655-4477
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?


> point well said is that why even use Flash.... any number of
> solutions via Javascript or other stuff via DHTML...

Because, as hard as Flash may be, equivalent DHTML may be much harder - or
not possible at all. Try writing a cross-browser drag-and-drop DHTML
interface, for example.

> ... it certainly stops everything I am doing until Flash gets
> it act moving...  which can be a pain in the hind when I am
> just browsing a site looking for relevant content....

I think that's a good differentiation you make - Flash isn't really suitable
for content. HTML is better for that. Flash, on the other hand, is better
for applications in many ways. So, no, Flash isn't an ideal replacement for
HTML. They are suitable for different things. But there's no way that you
can argue that HTML makes a good application interface. It doesn't. It's a
giant step backwards, really, for application interfaces - maybe as good as
the best interface functionality of the early 1980s, let's say. Yecch.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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