well, im a graphic designer, turned coder, over the past 4 years, started with ihtml, and made the natural progression to the dark side :) CF BABY!
now, flash, thats a different story, 6 year or so ago, i used an off brand app called "Future Splash Animator" and with that we made a little red ball move across the screen.....wooopty doo...it was cool, but kinda really hard to make much else happen. so we left it. lo and behold, on the scene, FLASH, a new "thing" i guess it was macromedia who bought some of the something from future splash animator, and moved forward with FLASH. anyway, it has always puzzled me, who their target Flash Developer is....i mean, i have 9 years of web development experience, i was programming basic in 3rd grade, cf for about a year now, and graphics for all of the 9 years....and i still have a lot of trouble doing anything more than some multiscene intro movies, with buttons and some database to cf to flash type stuff, but other than that, it would take me giving up my social life to truly understand the inner complexities of it, and master CF at the same time...and im not really ready to do that, yet :) so, i just cant really figure out how to cost justify the time with the learning curve, some serious gui/ide changes would make life a little easier, i think? ok, ive given .4 cents this week, almost at my quota.... tony -----Original Message----- From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? You forgot.. Your client wants that dancing monkey to crawl across the screen, pick up the bannanna, and eat it. Code that in loops. :-) Oh.. And next month the dancing monkey has to be a fish that eats a worm. -----Original Message----- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? I've been wondering lately about the cost of development for Flash...what if there was an alternate way to develop the flash interface using pre-made components? (above and beyond what exists today) Would it be crazy to image writing a web page in a markup language which produced flash? I've always thought the development environment was the biggest hurdle but that could very well be because I'm coming from a programming background and not a designer's... <select> <cfloop query="cities"> <option>#city# </cfloop> </select> In Flash: <flash:select id="cityselect"> <cfloop query="cities"> <flash:option>#city# </cfloop> </ flash:select> It's getting late, I'm talking crazy... -----Original Message----- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? cost of development alone may be the biggest deterrent... in our world its: interface (graphic) content (text) html applications (cf) clients want to pay only for the HTML :) the apps have to be done cheaply, and quickly... thus CF... Interface is always an issue... modifying Photoshop designs to cross browser implemented HTML is a pain in the arse as it is... Can only wonder how expensive Flash would get... because now you add a new layer of behaviors, many multiples of design and round trip interaction and tracking... lots of stuff... Flash should be proximate to CD Rom development... The average CD Rom development costs what these days? -paris -----Original Message----- From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? Try to sell the clients on the costs of developing the flash. If you count up the hours. Flash is NOT cheap. If you count up the hours maintaining flash... It is REALLY not cheap. My .02 from experience. -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie E. Betts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda? Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong push for = Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is there any particular = reason for this? I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI frill that I = doubt I can sell to my clients who want a functional business = application. Anyone here can tell me why/how I could sell them Flash = which would be over and above CF development? Bonnie E. Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bettsIT.com 703.508.9766 ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
