Wholly crap, there is someone else out there with the same problem I have.
Thanks Todd!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Intellectual property (was RE: programmer vs. developer)


<quote>
"Finally, I think this expectation that most of us have about being a
programmer 24/7 demonstrates the relative immaturity of our field; after
all, it really should be just like any other job, instead of being a hobby
that you happen to get paid for. Sure, it's nice to enjoy your work, but
work is just one part of the life of a well-rounded person."

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
</quote>

Dave,

Curious question for you.  To those of us that enjoy programming as a
hobby and actually do research on our own outside of work time.  How does
intellectual property fit into this.  The reason why I bring this up is
because well, due to the immaturity of most comapnies wanting their
developers to work 24/7, basically anything I concieve of is by right of
employment contract, theirs.  In their eyes, a salaried employee is
something akin to a ... well... a wageslave.

Take the little company I work for.  They'd love it if I worked for them
24/7.  The partners would get a kick out of it, especially if they could
purchase another SUV within a few months.  However, I have been hesitant
to hand over anything, but at times, I've had no choice due to the lack of
time they give me for a particular project.  My methodology for example.
The project manager basically scoped out what he felt my co-worker and I
were developing, asked me to read this over and ... published it on the
intranet.  At the same time, I'm thinking to myself, why did I just do
that?  What did I gain from it?  I got no recognition for it, I got
nothing.  So, if I were to ever break away from my current job, I'd be
pretty screwed if they found out that I'm still using 'my' so called
methodology for future clients.

I'm very concerned about the future and maturity level of the so called
"internet/development" companies out there.  How does figleaf handle
creative ideas like this?

Case in point, Branden Hall.  I'm sure he cranks out actionscripting code
all day long and posts code left and right and handles what he can to help
people out.  How does Figleaf distinguish between his intellectual
property and commercial value?  Does Branden run every little script of
code over to someone at figleaf and ask for permission to release it?  If
Figleaf uses his code that he wrote on his time, does he get compensated?
recognized?  Does Figleaf automatically by default suck in his code into
their intellectual property library because it was used that one time?

Just curious,
~Todd

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