Visual Basis is the scripting language for ASP, and is integrated into most all Office 
applications,
it is not going to go away

Several web sites that I host are done using a combination of ASP and CF (mix and 
match)

There are things one will do that the other won't, etc.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Beer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP


| In 1991, my IT department head, a C programmer by trade, told me
| (paraphrasing) "Visual Basic?  Don't waste time learning that - it will
| never be accepted ...  you'll never make a dime ..".
|
| Well, 11 years later there are many people making a lot of dimes from
| VB, writing very powerful, functional apps, and people still call it a
| toy..
|
| Matt is right - CF is being treated exactly the same way.
|
| In my mind, CF currently is immature, as VB was back in 1991.  In time,
| CF will be that powerful, stable, reasonably bug free platform that CF
| 5.0 *almost was*.  Ack..  CFMX should have been delayed a year or
| three... Just my opinion.
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
| Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:39 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
|
|
| Not really. I get great enjoyment out of watching people make fools of
| themselves by attacking programming languages without merit.
|
| Matt Liotta
| President & CEO
| Montara Software, Inc.
| http://www.montarasoftware.com/
| 888-408-0900 x901
|
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Rob Rohan [mailto:rob@;cardinalweb.com]
| > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:35 PM
| > To: CF-Talk
| > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
| >
| > oof, hit a sore spot eh?
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
| > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:19 PM
| > To: CF-Talk
| > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
| >
| >
| > People talk shit about VB more than any other language. Most calling
| VB
| > a toy because it is easy to create applications with. Ironically, VB
| is
| > used in every Fortune 2000 company and has the largest developer base
| in
| > the world mostly because of its ease of use.
| >
| > CF seems to suffer from the same thing. It is quite simply the easiest
|
| > language to build web applications in and as such is considered a toy
| by
| > some, while many Fortune 2000 companies use CF for internal web
| > applications because of this.
| >
| > Matt Liotta
| > President & CEO
| > Montara Software, Inc.
| > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
| > 888-408-0900 x901
| >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info@;turnkey.to]
| > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:07 PM
| > > To: CF-Talk
| > > Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
| > >
| > > > Sure they do. It all depends on who you talk to, Just like C++ vs
| VB
| > vs
| > > > Java
| > > >
| > > > At 01:22 PM 10/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
| > > >>You know, I am so sick and tired of having to defend CF, at work
| to
| > > other
| > > >>developers here.......  You know I don't see php, or asp people
| > having
| > > do
| > > >>defend using those languages.....  WTF!!
| > > >>
| > > >>F%$# it I am changing career's and becoming a firefighter.......
| > >
| > > I've heard people talk about having to defend ASP ( for being
| cryptic
| > and
| > > not being dynamic enough -- my personal reasons for not liking it
| > after
| > > having worked with it almost exclusively for a year ) and PHP ( for
| > its
| > > background / history -- I have no clue what this means ). I probably
| > can't
| > > count the number of times I've heard people refer to VB with obvious
|
| > > disdain
| > > -- but it still gets a lot of use. And people complain about Java
| > being
| > > "buggy" or "flakey" with enough consistency that I can sometimes
| > finish
| > > their sentences. I've had to defend the use of JavaScript and dhtml
| > even
| > > in
| > > environments where it was known that the company was standardized on
| > IE
| > > and
| > > no-one should be using the application with anything else and there
| > was no
| > > plan to change.
| > >
| > >
| > > S. Isaac Dealey
| > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
| > >
| > > www.turnkey.to
| > > 954-776-0046
| > >
| >
| >
|
| 
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