Visual Basis is the scripting language for ASP, and is integrated into most all Office applications, it is not going to go away
Several web sites that I host are done using a combination of ASP and CF (mix and match) There are things one will do that the other won't, etc. ================================ This address is filtered through the open relay database at http://www.ordb.org and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR http://www.dwhite.ws mailto:doug@;dwhite.ws ================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Beer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP | In 1991, my IT department head, a C programmer by trade, told me | (paraphrasing) "Visual Basic? Don't waste time learning that - it will | never be accepted ... you'll never make a dime ..". | | Well, 11 years later there are many people making a lot of dimes from | VB, writing very powerful, functional apps, and people still call it a | toy.. | | Matt is right - CF is being treated exactly the same way. | | In my mind, CF currently is immature, as VB was back in 1991. In time, | CF will be that powerful, stable, reasonably bug free platform that CF | 5.0 *almost was*. Ack.. CFMX should have been delayed a year or | three... Just my opinion. | | | -----Original Message----- | From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com] | Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:39 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP | | | Not really. I get great enjoyment out of watching people make fools of | themselves by attacking programming languages without merit. | | Matt Liotta | President & CEO | Montara Software, Inc. | http://www.montarasoftware.com/ | 888-408-0900 x901 | | > -----Original Message----- | > From: Rob Rohan [mailto:rob@;cardinalweb.com] | > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:35 PM | > To: CF-Talk | > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP | > | > oof, hit a sore spot eh? | > | > -----Original Message----- | > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com] | > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:19 PM | > To: CF-Talk | > Subject: RE: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP | > | > | > People talk shit about VB more than any other language. Most calling | VB | > a toy because it is easy to create applications with. Ironically, VB | is | > used in every Fortune 2000 company and has the largest developer base | in | > the world mostly because of its ease of use. | > | > CF seems to suffer from the same thing. It is quite simply the easiest | | > language to build web applications in and as such is considered a toy | by | > some, while many Fortune 2000 companies use CF for internal web | > applications because of this. | > | > Matt Liotta | > President & CEO | > Montara Software, Inc. | > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ | > 888-408-0900 x901 | > | > > -----Original Message----- | > > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:info@;turnkey.to] | > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:07 PM | > > To: CF-Talk | > > Subject: Re: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP | > > | > > > Sure they do. It all depends on who you talk to, Just like C++ vs | VB | > vs | > > > Java | > > > | > > > At 01:22 PM 10/30/2002 -0500, you wrote: | > > >>You know, I am so sick and tired of having to defend CF, at work | to | > > other | > > >>developers here....... You know I don't see php, or asp people | > having | > > do | > > >>defend using those languages..... WTF!! | > > >> | > > >>F%$# it I am changing career's and becoming a firefighter....... | > > | > > I've heard people talk about having to defend ASP ( for being | cryptic | > and | > > not being dynamic enough -- my personal reasons for not liking it | > after | > > having worked with it almost exclusively for a year ) and PHP ( for | > its | > > background / history -- I have no clue what this means ). I probably | > can't | > > count the number of times I've heard people refer to VB with obvious | | > > disdain | > > -- but it still gets a lot of use. And people complain about Java | > being | > > "buggy" or "flakey" with enough consistency that I can sometimes | > finish | > > their sentences. I've had to defend the use of JavaScript and dhtml | > even | > > in | > > environments where it was known that the company was standardized on | > IE | > > and | > > no-one should be using the application with anything else and there | > was no | > > plan to change. | > > | > > | > > S. Isaac Dealey | > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer | > > | > > www.turnkey.to | > > 954-776-0046 | > > | > | > | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm

