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From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: Very unsatisfied with Macromedia's support attention ...




<<Yes there have been some issues with CFMX but I could do without
folks using this list as a podium for their grievances. >>>


That's not what I am doing now or any time.  As I've said at least a dozen
times now, I was getting no answers from Macromedia. It's urgent for me,
less urgent for Macromedia and for my Admin. I had to make it urgent.  After
waiting several hours on a Friday for an answer from Macromedia and getting
none, I had no choice but to make a fuss.  I did and it worked.





<<I've been in
these type situations before...It's called "poor planning" and it's what
got you in this mess in the first place.>>>

Rubbish.  You might be guilty of poor planning.  You're certainly guilty of
shooting from the lip without much thought.   You don't know anything about
what planning took place.




<<<- If you can't risk downtime/crashes/env problems, then DON'T install
upgrades directly on your production machine. How can you do this then
cry in a panic? Hell, make sure the upgrade works on equivalent
hardware/software beforehand at the minimum. >>>>


If you can't risk??? Who CAN risk down time on a production box?   Are you
saying once you have CFMX on a production box you can never install updaters
or service packs??? If not, then at some point you install them on
production boxes.



<<<- Sure MM's missed some things but I don't recall many software
companies where their employees would "flock" to address a problem. I
don't give them a 10/10 with everything that they do but there are a
number of folks there doing a bang up job.>>>


Anyone say they didn't?   Not me.   All I said was that I wasn't getting the
kind of urgency from anyone that this problem represented for me. I have
clients who want their sites deployed and I can't.  I'm going to do what it
takes to get the obstacles moved out of the way.


<<<- Where was the service provider through all this? Doesn't sound like
they have a large CF user base if you've got them tinkering with
updaters on live servers....and if it WAS planned by them...they need to
hire folks that are a little more proactive in troubleshooting.>>>>



And how do I do anything about that on a Friday afternoon when I'm against
my deadline?   DO you suggest I get on the phone across the Pacific Ocean
and start firing their staff and hiring some of my own?   And how will that
get my sites deployed this weekend?   As anyone knows the installation
problems relating to CFMX have been festering for weeks and Macromedia were
asked to help ages ago. Progress was happening at a snails pace. What else
should I have done if I couldn't get anyone to answer my emails or give me
status reports? 



<<<Now can you please move this to the community list or something? Sure as
heck isn't technical in nature any more...>>>


I'm sure there are lots of people here who are most interested in the
outcome.  They've spent most of the night telling me how to organise my life
and my business without knowing a damn thing about me.





<<<Hope things work out,>>>

So do i.



Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.




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