|
| Well, I use Apache and handle everything through that.

We are talking about Windows installations here, not apache.  I have not had an
instll problem with Apache, either on a single or multi-homed
 server.

| I don't understand you - the default install lets you access CF Admin
| from any machine. You can always run the JRun web server for CF Admin
| and use Apache (or, presumably, IIS) to handle non-CF Admin traffic
| through the connectors. We have it set up so the JRun web server is not
| accessible outside the network (in fact, not outside the network layer
| on which the app servers run).

When using IIS, if one turns off the default web site, CF Administrator will
return a "404 not found" error.
This is because it installs in the wwwroot directory on a standard install.
Again, I am talking a Windows/IIS machine.  If you are not familiar with IIS,
the server admin has the option of stopping, starting, and/or disabling any of
the web sites so configured without affecting the others.
For servers exposed to the intenet, they are under constant assault from all
over the planet by scanners, trojans, virus infected machines, and intentional
attempts at cracking.   The majority of these use the IP number which takes them
to the default web site.  If a server administrator is able to disable the
default web site, it adds an extra layer of defense against these types of
probes.
My own network is very small and should be considered insignificant in the grand
scheme of the internet, however it is common to log 25000+ attempts to hack the
server on a given day.  Any server operator who chooses to ignore this is either
incompetent or is being careless, and is openly inviting compromise.

|
| Glad to hear that! I know you've had a rough time with installs so far
| so I'm pleased that it hasn't put you off.

         I credit the work with Red Sky for that success.
         Check http://66.139.91.36/brcfug/
|
| Even with the original CFMX Server product, I could do about eight
| uninstall / install cycles a day (and often did while I was working
| with pre-release builds). Of course, those were 'standard' installs.
| Considering how many variables there are in a full secure production
| setup, how quick do you need it to be? (That's a serious question)
|
| Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
|

It seems we are talking apples and oranges here.   I have never complained about
the installs on Apache, or with default installs.  I have never mentioned
problems installing on the MAC platform, because I do not use it.
I have not reported problems installing developer copies on a developer machine.

If you install Windows Adv Server from the original setup disks, the installer
will prompt you for your configuration and will even give you the option of
re-formatting the hard drive if you want.  Once you select the options you wish,
the installer completes the install in a single pass.   All that remains to be
done after that, is to apply whatever updates and patches that have been
released since the disk manufacture.  If you install Norton Anti-virus, the
installer asks a few questions, and does all the install and configuration in
one pass.  All that remains is to update the virus definitions after the
install.    This is what I mean by fast and efficient.  When installing Windows
203 Advanced server from the distribution CDROM, you are again presented with
options from which to select and perform your required configuration.  Once
those chores are completed, then the installer completes the task in a single
pass.  After installation tasks such as configuring web sites, setting up
security policies, and configuring the firewall are done with other included
applets.  Never, is there a requirement to open configuration files and modify
path information, nor is there a requirement to edit the registry.  When
installing CFMX on a multi-homed Windows server, this is just not the case,  And
this is what I mean by a broken installer package.   Until Red Sky reaches RC,
CFMX IS a great application packaged in a broken installer.  I stand by this
description.

For any software company, and especially one the size of Macromedia, delivering
install packages that will not do what you claim they will do, on whatever
platform you advertise them to support is frankly inexcusable.

Doug

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