Can I just side with Doug and say that this very complexity is what makes
the BlueDragon/J2EE approach so much more compelling. (Again, for the folks
at home, BlueDragon comes in two standalone editions, the free Server and
the Server JX products, and then J2EE product for installing atop a J2EE
server, as Dave's trying to do with CFMX for J2EE.)

Consider the complexity of the CFMX for J2EE approach, with installers and
prompts and choices between WAR and Ear files, then deployment of the WAR
and further configuration after that--and THEN finally copying your code
onto the deployed CFusion web app (assuming your shop even allows that).
Then the challenges, as Dave is facing, of wanting a context root other than
CFusion.

With BlueDragon, the single installer (per OS) creates a template of a
standard J2EE web app. You put your CFML code into that directory and deploy
the web app.

Kind of sounds like the old MacIntosh ads if any of you remember them from
1984, showing the stack of books for a PC versus a pamphlet floating down
next to the Mac. Maybe we should call it "CFML J2EE for the rest of us". :-)

Oh, and yes, BlueDragon does deploy on J2EE on the Mac. There was a
discussion of running it on JRun (with some modest challenges) on the
BD-Interest list
(http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/archive_search/inde
x.cfm). And Sean wrote favorably of his experience implementing
BlueDragon/J2EE on Tomcat
(http://www.corfield.org/index.php?fuseaction=blog.archive&month=2002_12#000
066). As he writes there, while listening to a Bay Area CFUG seminar
presented by our president, Vince Bonfanti, he installed it and saw how
easily it worked.

I point this out with some trepidation. I admire Sean tremendously and it
was magnanimous of him to even write up his observations, let alone take the
time to try it out. I certainly don't mean by this to use this to embarrass
him in the least, nor Macromedia. It's just factual observation, on both our
parts. Doug alluded to a "religious war" in a previous post. I don't want
things to degenerate to that, either. Again, honestly, we're just trying to
fill in gaps where they exist. That's capitalism, "find a need and fill it".

More than anything, we love CFML and are just doing what we can to help
preserve it, and more importantly, people's investment in it. Our .NET
solution is yet another step in that direction.

/charlie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Installing MX for JRun with no context root
>
>
> Thanks for the tip, but I'm still having problems.
>
> I ran the installer using the WAR option, and copied the
> cfusion.war file to
> the server directory. The only directory in there was SERVER-INF because I
> deleted the default-ear directory to avoid conflicting context roots. I
> explode the file OK, but when I start the server so that I can access the
> context root via the JRun console, I get:
>
> 06/14 22:27:14 warning Deployer Service failed to deploy
> file:/opt/jrun4/servers/reisse/WEB-INF/
>         * Unrecognized deployment: file:/opt/jrun4/servers/mysite/WEB-INF/
> 06/14 22:27:14 warning Deployer Service failed to deploy
> file:/opt/jrun4/servers/reisse/CFIDE/
>         * Unrecognized deployment: file:/opt/jrun4/servers/mysite/CFIDE/
> 06/14 22:27:14 warning Deployer Service failed to deploy
> file:/opt/jrun4/servers/reisse/META-INF/
>         * Unrecognized deployment:
> file:/opt/jrun4/servers/mysite/META-INF/
> 06/14 22:27:14 info Deploying enterprise application "JRun 4.0
> Internal J2EE
> Components" from: file:/opt/jrun4/lib/jrun-comp.ear
>
> Then when I go into the admin console to get to that server,
> there is no web
> application listed to drill down into, just the Flash Remoting EAR.
> Grrrr....
>
> Should I be installing MX into a subdirectory of the server to the
> deployment descriptor errors? If I do, then won't I have to add the
> directory to any URLs?
> I feel like I'm missing something obvious here, but I've spent two days
> trying to nail this down.
>
> Any more insights you might have are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 09:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Installing MX for JRun with no context root
>
>
> > If you follow the default install for CFMX for J2EE on JRun (WAR
> > install, manually expand WAR - per the "Phase 2" / Updater 3
> > installation notes), then go into the JMC (JRun Management Console) and
> > drill down into the Macromedia ColdFusion Application and change the
> > Context Root to / that way. JRun will then redeploy CFMX.
> >
> > On Friday, Jun 13, 2003, at 13:08 US/Pacific, Dave Carabetta wrote:
> >
> > > I have installed CFMX for J2EE for JRun many times using "cfusion" as
> > > my
> > > context root. However, now I need to do some installations with no
> > > context
> > > root ("/") and I can't get MX to successfully start up for the life of
> > > me.
> > >
> > > I have successfully run the installer using the EAR option, and
> > > exploded the
> > > EAR to view the application.xml file to confirm that the context-root
> > > node
> > > said "/". I then went and deleted the default-ear directory from under
> > > my
> > > server instance to eliminate the potential context root clash betwen
> > > the
> > > default application and CFMX. This leaves only the SERVER-INF
> > > directory. I
> > > then copy the cfusion.war file into my server root directory (i.e.,
> > > /opt/jrun4/servers/mysite) and explode the archive. That process seems
> > > to go
> > > without a problem (although I have a stange feeling that might be
> > > where my
> > > problem is). I also see that I don't need to explode the rds.war file
> > > because I'm not using a context root.
> > >
> > > I then follow the Updater 3 Release Notes to get MX in synch with JRun
> > > and
> > > then try and start the server. But I constantly get the following
> > > startup
> > > errors:
> > >
> > > 06/13 16:01:26 info JRun Naming Service listening on *:2911
> > > 06/13 16:01:27 info No JDBC data sources have been configured for this
> > > server (see jrun-resources.xml)
> > > 06/13 16:01:27 info JRun Web Server listening on *:8500
> > > 06/13 16:01:27 warning Deployer Service failed to deploy
> > > file:/opt/jrun4/servers/mysite/META-INF/
> > >         * Unrecognized deployment:
> > > file:/opt/jrun4/servers/reisse/META-INF/
> > > 06/13 16:01:27 warning Deployer Service failed to deploy
> > > file:/opt/jrun4/servers/mysite/WEB-INF/
> > >         * Unrecognized deployment:
> > > file:/opt/jrun4/servers/reisse/WEB-INF/
> > > 06/13 16:01:27 warning Deployer Service failed to deploy
> > > file:/opt/jrun4/servers/mysite/CFIDE/
> > >         * Unrecognized deployment:
> > > file:/opt/jrun4/servers/reisse/CFIDE/
> > > 06/13 16:01:27 info Deploying enterprise application "JRun 4.0
> > > Internal J2EE
> > > Components" from: file:/opt/jrun4/lib/jrun-comp.ear
> > > 06/13 16:01:27 info Deploying EJB "JRunSQLInvoker" from:
> > > file:/opt/jrun4/lib/jrun-comp.ear
> > > 06/13 16:01:28 info Deploying enterprise application "Flash Remoting
> > > EAR"
> > > from: file:/opt/jrun4/lib/flashgateway.ear
> > > 06/13 16:01:28 info Deploying web application "Flash Remoting" from:
> > > file:/opt/jrun4/lib/flashgateway.ear
> > > 06/13 16:01:28 user JSPServlet: init
> > > 06/13 16:01:28 user FlashGatewayServlet: init
> > > Server mysite ready (startup time: 6 seconds)
> > >
> > > What am I missing? Does anybody have a good instruction set to get MX
> > > (preferably on JRun) running with no context root? As I said, I've
> > > successfully installed using "cfusion" as a context root dozens of
> > > times,
> > > but "/" is stumping me.
> > >
> > > As a test, I created a sub-directory called cfusion and exploded the
> > > archive
> > > there and everything worked fine. But the whole point is to not have
> > > to type
> > > /cfusion in my URLs.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Dave.
> >
> >
> 
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