I only use Apache on Linux - no problems there

I use IIS on Windows

I have been unsuccessful in configuring the connectors to a specific site for CF
administrator functions, and yet have CF available to the other sites for
"normal" operations.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Calvin Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Installing MX for JRun with no context root


| Apache installs very nicely on windows.
|
| But that aside, you can certainly do a standalone install, run the
| connectors and use IIS, and still not have the default IIS running.
|
|
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 8:20 PM
| Subject: Re: Installing MX for JRun with no context root
|
|
| > |
| > | Well, I use Apache and handle everything through that.
| >
| > We are talking about Windows installations here, not apache.  I have not
| had an
| > instll problem with Apache, either on a single or multi-homed
| >  server.
| >
| > | I don't understand you - the default install lets you access CF Admin
| > | from any machine. You can always run the JRun web server for CF Admin
| > | and use Apache (or, presumably, IIS) to handle non-CF Admin traffic
| > | through the connectors. We have it set up so the JRun web server is not
| > | accessible outside the network (in fact, not outside the network layer
| > | on which the app servers run).
| >
| > When using IIS, if one turns off the default web site, CF Administrator
| will
| > return a "404 not found" error.
| > This is because it installs in the wwwroot directory on a standard
| install.
| > Again, I am talking a Windows/IIS machine.  If you are not familiar with
| IIS,
| > the server admin has the option of stopping, starting, and/or disabling
| any of
| > the web sites so configured without affecting the others.
| > For servers exposed to the intenet, they are under constant assault from
| all
| > over the planet by scanners, trojans, virus infected machines, and
| intentional
| > attempts at cracking.   The majority of these use the IP number which
| takes them
| > to the default web site.  If a server administrator is able to disable the
| > default web site, it adds an extra layer of defense against these types of
| > probes.
| > My own network is very small and should be considered insignificant in the
| grand
| > scheme of the internet, however it is common to log 25000+ attempts to
| hack the
| > server on a given day.  Any server operator who chooses to ignore this is
| either
| > incompetent or is being careless, and is openly inviting compromise.
| >
| > |
| > | Glad to hear that! I know you've had a rough time with installs so far
| > | so I'm pleased that it hasn't put you off.
| >
| >          I credit the work with Red Sky for that success.
| >          Check http://66.139.91.36/brcfug/
| > |
| > | Even with the original CFMX Server product, I could do about eight
| > | uninstall / install cycles a day (and often did while I was working
| > | with pre-release builds). Of course, those were 'standard' installs.
| > | Considering how many variables there are in a full secure production
| > | setup, how quick do you need it to be? (That's a serious question)
| > |
| > | Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
| > |
| >
| > It seems we are talking apples and oranges here.   I have never complained
| about
| > the installs on Apache, or with default installs.  I have never mentioned
| > problems installing on the MAC platform, because I do not use it.
| > I have not reported problems installing developer copies on a developer
| machine.
| >
| > If you install Windows Adv Server from the original setup disks, the
| installer
| > will prompt you for your configuration and will even give you the option
| of
| > re-formatting the hard drive if you want.  Once you select the options you
| wish,
| > the installer completes the install in a single pass.   All that remains
| to be
| > done after that, is to apply whatever updates and patches that have been
| > released since the disk manufacture.  If you install Norton Anti-virus,
| the
| > installer asks a few questions, and does all the install and configuration
| in
| > one pass.  All that remains is to update the virus definitions after the
| > install.    This is what I mean by fast and efficient.  When installing
| Windows
| > 203 Advanced server from the distribution CDROM, you are again presented
| with
| > options from which to select and perform your required configuration.
| Once
| > those chores are completed, then the installer completes the task in a
| single
| > pass.  After installation tasks such as configuring web sites, setting up
| > security policies, and configuring the firewall are done with other
| included
| > applets.  Never, is there a requirement to open configuration files and
| modify
| > path information, nor is there a requirement to edit the registry.  When
| > installing CFMX on a multi-homed Windows server, this is just not the
| case,  And
| > this is what I mean by a broken installer package.   Until Red Sky reaches
| RC,
| > CFMX IS a great application packaged in a broken installer.  I stand by
| this
| > description.
| >
| > For any software company, and especially one the size of Macromedia,
| delivering
| > install packages that will not do what you claim they will do, on whatever
| > platform you advertise them to support is frankly inexcusable.
| >
| > Doug
| >
| >
| 
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