Apache installs very nicely on windows. But that aside, you can certainly do a standalone install, run the connectors and use IIS, and still not have the default IIS running.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Installing MX for JRun with no context root > | > | Well, I use Apache and handle everything through that. > > We are talking about Windows installations here, not apache. I have not had an > instll problem with Apache, either on a single or multi-homed > server. > > | I don't understand you - the default install lets you access CF Admin > | from any machine. You can always run the JRun web server for CF Admin > | and use Apache (or, presumably, IIS) to handle non-CF Admin traffic > | through the connectors. We have it set up so the JRun web server is not > | accessible outside the network (in fact, not outside the network layer > | on which the app servers run). > > When using IIS, if one turns off the default web site, CF Administrator will > return a "404 not found" error. > This is because it installs in the wwwroot directory on a standard install. > Again, I am talking a Windows/IIS machine. If you are not familiar with IIS, > the server admin has the option of stopping, starting, and/or disabling any of > the web sites so configured without affecting the others. > For servers exposed to the intenet, they are under constant assault from all > over the planet by scanners, trojans, virus infected machines, and intentional > attempts at cracking. The majority of these use the IP number which takes them > to the default web site. If a server administrator is able to disable the > default web site, it adds an extra layer of defense against these types of > probes. > My own network is very small and should be considered insignificant in the grand > scheme of the internet, however it is common to log 25000+ attempts to hack the > server on a given day. Any server operator who chooses to ignore this is either > incompetent or is being careless, and is openly inviting compromise. > > | > | Glad to hear that! I know you've had a rough time with installs so far > | so I'm pleased that it hasn't put you off. > > I credit the work with Red Sky for that success. > Check http://66.139.91.36/brcfug/ > | > | Even with the original CFMX Server product, I could do about eight > | uninstall / install cycles a day (and often did while I was working > | with pre-release builds). Of course, those were 'standard' installs. > | Considering how many variables there are in a full secure production > | setup, how quick do you need it to be? (That's a serious question) > | > | Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ > | > > It seems we are talking apples and oranges here. I have never complained about > the installs on Apache, or with default installs. I have never mentioned > problems installing on the MAC platform, because I do not use it. > I have not reported problems installing developer copies on a developer machine. > > If you install Windows Adv Server from the original setup disks, the installer > will prompt you for your configuration and will even give you the option of > re-formatting the hard drive if you want. Once you select the options you wish, > the installer completes the install in a single pass. All that remains to be > done after that, is to apply whatever updates and patches that have been > released since the disk manufacture. If you install Norton Anti-virus, the > installer asks a few questions, and does all the install and configuration in > one pass. All that remains is to update the virus definitions after the > install. This is what I mean by fast and efficient. When installing Windows > 203 Advanced server from the distribution CDROM, you are again presented with > options from which to select and perform your required configuration. Once > those chores are completed, then the installer completes the task in a single > pass. After installation tasks such as configuring web sites, setting up > security policies, and configuring the firewall are done with other included > applets. Never, is there a requirement to open configuration files and modify > path information, nor is there a requirement to edit the registry. When > installing CFMX on a multi-homed Windows server, this is just not the case, And > this is what I mean by a broken installer package. Until Red Sky reaches RC, > CFMX IS a great application packaged in a broken installer. I stand by this > description. > > For any software company, and especially one the size of Macromedia, delivering > install packages that will not do what you claim they will do, on whatever > platform you advertise them to support is frankly inexcusable. > > Doug > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
