It is late, but I offer you this:

http://www.laszlosystems.com/developers/learn/documentation/tutorials/
data_app_7.php

To do a dril-ldown the Flash Client, Laszlo (God I hate typing that)  
invokes a Web service that:

1) invokes a JSP program
2) the JSP program Queries the DB
3) the JSP Prog converts the query to XML
4)the Laszlo (God I hate typing that) program manipulates the XML
5) the XML is sent to the client

Unless I am way 'round the bend, that's a lotta' crap!

Is XML to become the internal lingua franca of web apps (computer  
programs) -- if so we all better get jobs with SBC

Dick



On Mar 29, 2004, at 8:33 PM, PC Wroble wrote:

> FORGET flex! Go Laszlo!
>
>  I was sick of waiting for flex since the beta list was so small so  
> I've been playing around with Laszlo (LPS) for a while. It rocks! I  
> figured Flex would be priced out of range of us small guys and of  
> course it is. I actually thought it would start at about $5000 per cpu  
> which is way out of range of us small guys but it's even more than I  
> imagined.
>  I had previously noted:
>
>  >>But, since MM gives away the Flash player and Sells The IDE, I think
>  >>anything that provides an alternative to buying the IDE is a
>  >>competitor, No?
>  >
>  >Well, yes, if this were really an alternative IDE. Laszlo does not  
> have an
>  >IDE that I see. They assume you'll use another IDE to code your  
> Laszlo
>  >applications (which is fine by me). Further, from what I read on  
> various
>  >mailing lists from the true Flash pros, most of *them* don't even  
> use the
>  >Flash IDE for most of their development work (most of which is in
>  >ActionScript).
>
>  See how use Eclipse as a Laszlo IDE at:  
> http://www.laszlosystems.com/developers/community/forums/
> showthread.php?s=&threadid=751
>
>  >>One thing I haven;t been able to determine is what LZ (Hate typing
>  >>Laszlo) sells -- and how much it costs.
>  >
>  >They sell the J2EE EAR/WAR file that contains the Laszlo engine.  
> It's akin
>  >to how Macromedia (most likely) will be offering the Flex engine  
> when it's
>  >done (integration with Blackstone aside, perhaps). As for price,  
> they seem
>  >to be like any other vendor who sells a pricey product....you have  
> to work
>  >through a sales person to negotiate cost! Macromedia does with with  
> products
>  >like Breeze, for example.
>
>  Laszlo has changed their pricing/version model. For most of it's life  
> they just had the Enterpise Edition which was out of reach of small  
> guys. Just a few weeks ago they were selling the Professional Edition  
> for $995 (or $999) and the Enterprise Edition for $2495 (or $2499).  
> Last week they rebranded the Professional Edition as the Express  
> Edition and changed the price to $1999 and you now have to call the  
> for pricing on the Enterprise edition. They probably had a run on the  
> Pro edition and realized they could get more for it plus they must of  
> had wind of the Flex pricing. In version 2 of the Developer Edition it  
> supported simultaneous connections from up to 2 remote IP addresses  
> per hour.��In version DE 2.1 that was released the other day they  
> changed it to support simultaneous connections from up to 5 remote IP  
> addresses per hour. Last week they also released the Non-Commercial  
> Edition which is free for no-commercial use. That should make it a hit  
> with non-profits &! other non-commercial uses.
>
>  With the outrageous pricing of Flex and considering most of my  
> clients are non-profits then Laszlo is for me. I'll be deleting the  
> idea Flex from my memory now.
>
>  PC
>
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