> -----Original Message----- > From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:29 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: John Dowdell Wants to Know What's Wrong with Macromedia > > > I'm not saying that it can't work (throw me squarely in the group that > would > > LOVE to see CF open-sourced). What I'm saying is that it's a much > harder > > (and potentially more dangerous) decision for smaller companies than > large > > companies with multiple revenue streams. > > I disagree with open sourcing CFMX (shock! though I do think a free > version without the enterprise features *may* be cool). You can do > most of the same things with jsp tag libraries that you can do with CF > and they are FOSS. Right now WebSphere and BEA and the like are having > a hard time selling stuff becuase Tomcat and JBoss are out there - why > pay for WebSphere? CFMX has some really cool features that no other > language has (like runtime function binding onto cfcs, and a bunch of > other non-marketed/used things)
I'm sorry - I misspoke there. I wasn't talking about the actual server so much as the language. I'd be pushing for the CF specification to become standardized (not open-sourced). The two concepts basically sit in the same neuron in my head. > > I think that there are definite ways that MM could make it work, but > they > > won't be able to make it work like IBM has. For example we just had to > > upgrade all of work machines to a Gig of RAM to use WSAD. So IBM's > > open-source IDE was directly responsible for the sale of several > thousand > > dollars of IBM hardware. ;^) > > I have a gig of RAM and it still freezes - I like to blame windows but > I can't for sure. If you can steer clear of the XSLT editor like it > was the plague, and if you want to BSD your box run ITunes and WSAD at > the same time wheeeee Honestly I've not used it much yet. It takes about 5 minutes solid to launch (after which, admittedly, it does run okay). But it's just so freakin' complex. 100 "perspectives" each with a thousand views and no roadmap to speak of. Of course the company is treating it as if providing an IDE means that they don't have to provide any other training which isn't helping. But I know what you mean. I've got a Celeron 1200 Laptop with a Gig of RAM and I'm running SQL Server 2000, CFMX, Lotus Notes and Outlook (since we've standardized on Notes but I still use Outlook) and generally will have CF Studio, Paint Shop Pro and Corel Draw open as well. Opening WASD is like slapping that machine with a stupid stick. It just sits there, stares at you and drools. ;^) Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189768 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
