> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:35 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!)
> 
> 1) Can you truly say that everyone that stops by your site (including
> developer testing) is a non-techie?

You don't have to know that everyone is a non-techie, just a lot of them.
Cross sections of people will include some techies.

The stats for www.firstnight.org show a marked increase in FireFox usage as
well - and that's not a technical site.

> 2) Yes...FF use has increased...but the point I'm trying to get across is
> that it will never hit that critical mass where it really yanks major
> marketshare from MS until it's bundled with new computers.

It may or it may not.  Who knows.  I lean towards the "not" category simply
because:

1) You're argument is powerful - the vast majority of people don't change
what they get (unless somebody changes it for them).  And they get Safari on
their OS X and IE on their Windows.

2) MS is still a remarkably nimble company in a lot of ways.  It's very
unlikely that they'll allow FireFox to reach that kind of market penetration
without a significant response (we're already seeing that).

But still - who really knows?  Just because MOST software classes are
dominated by pack-ins doesn't mean they all have to be - and some aren't.
Powerful allies also help: AOL dominates the IM market for non-AOL ISP
users.  Google dominates search.

Support from powerful allies like these (and others) could push the scales
remarkably.

> The only possible exception is that we techs tell every non-tech we know
> that they must have FF and we go and install it for them ;-)

Of course this is exactly what happens.

Socially most people with computers have a friend or relation that "knows
computers" to at least some extent.  I unofficially support my home
computers and at least 12 others.

However this isn't a very good marker since, techie tho' I am, I still leave
IE as the default browser on those computers I "support" simply because it's
the most usable for those people.

Not all techies will be spreading FireFox and not all non-technies will be
sticking with IE.  All you can really do, to bring this full-circle, is to
watch the logs and count the hits.

Jim Davis




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