This was brought up at CFUnited during the Q & A with Adobe. Who knows if it 
will happen but it's not a bad idea at all. 

-----Original Message-----
From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion MX7 Developer Exam for certification, a must? Wher e is 
the location of the exam?

Actually, I'd be happier if it were more of a requirement.  I'd also like to 
see different levels other than Certified and Advanced.

We regularly look for contractors.  I don't think I've seen one of the resumes 
that had the certification.  

We get the resume's, see the CF experience, contact the former employer 
(usually a non technical person) and do the best we can.  Most of the time we 
get a phone interview with the person and have to make a decision.

Out of the last five or so that we hired, ONE really knows ColdFusion.
A couple had coded in it before, but asked us to change to a different 
programming language (not going to happen!) after they got here because they 
knew that language better.  One persons experience with CF was entirely through 
the design mode of dreamweaver.  This person couldn't even understand the CF 
code when it was given back for revisions.  Then there was the one.  Great 
resume, "extensive experience" with SQL, CF, and other things; great responses 
from previous employers.  Had to fire him after a week.  He didn't even know do 
a simple table join. (we now ask basic technical questions during the interview)

If there were tests that covered things like CF Basic (can use cf, some sql, 
understands certain concepts); CF Intermediate (Knows Structures, Arrays, 
lesser know tags); CF Advanced (Ben Forta!!!)  You get the idea.
Charge different prices for the testing based off of which exam you are sitting 
for.

Here is another idea that could be done, especially with this group....
Peer exams.  The people on this list could come up with an entry level exam 
that we could say "House of Fusion Basic Knowledge".  This wouldn't be for a 
money maker, though a small amount could be charged for admin purposes.  What 
it would be for is generating a base of programmers that know a minimum amount 
of knowledge.  This could increase the view of CF to the general web 
programming community.  Maybe it could even start a trend where people stop 
declaring that CF is dying!

I'd be willing to put some time towards it.  CF-Talk could come up with 
questions for the tests!  Hey if we wanted to do advanced tests, we could even 
use some of the really hard e-mails that come to the list!

Just an opinion and an idea or two!

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion MX7 Developer Exam for certification, a must?
Wher e is the location of the exam?

> I heard a lot about  Coldfusion MX7 Developer Exam for CF7 
> certification. First of all I want to know if it is a must.

No.

> Is there more job offers for certified programmer?

I seriously doubt it.

> Is the salary usually higher?

No, I seriously doubt that too.

While it may give you an advantage in the hiring process - if, for example, 
there are two people who are equally qualified, but one is also certified - I 
think that the primary value of the certification exam is to let you know how 
well you know standard CF/HTML information.

> Second I wonder if the exam is under Adobe certifications now?

Yes, if I understand your question correctly.

> And last, I wonder where is the location of the exam? (Around the 
> world and especially in Asia please)

Did you read the certification page?
http://www.adobe.com/support/training/certified_professional_program/cfm
x7_d
eveloper.html

It has a link to VUE, which is the company that delivers the certification 
tests. After a couple of clicks, you'll end up here:
http://www.vue.com/adobe/

You can view test center locations there.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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