> You keep saying that Adobe is targeting the enterprise.  Most 
> enterprises I know are not using ColdFusion, and are using 
> .NET because .Net is more "enterprisey".  If they have money 
> and want to invest in the JAVA technology, they will go for 
> something like Websphere. 

I didn't say they were successfully targeting the enterprise - although I
think they are, based on the sales I've seen - or that most enterprises are
using CF - I don't ever expect to see CF be the dominant web application
server. I said they're targeting the enterprise. I think that's fairly
self-evident, based on their pricing model. Again, though, it doesn't really
matter whether it's the dominant technology, to Adobe - the only thing that
matters to Adobe is whether they're maximizing their profit.

And, for what it's worth, I've seen several environments with CF on
WebSphere.

> ColdFusion is just not an enterprise ready technology, and it 
> won't be until they at least support x64.  

Very few enterprises are using x64 for production application servers, as
far as I can tell. Most enterprises, again as far as I can tell, are not
early adopters. The enterprises I'm working with, that are using CF, would
disagree with your characterization of CF as not "enterprise-ready". Your
observations may be different from mine, of course.

> ColdFusion is best aimed at SMBs IMHO.  They are the ones 
> that can make the most use of it, and they are the ones that 
> I feel make up the bulk of Adobe's revenues for Cf.

Again, this is a matter of your opinion. Your opinion (and mine, for that
matter) are irrelevant, since neither of us are responsible for CF pricing
and licensing at Adobe.

I don't know why I bother responding to these threads, though. People have
been griping about CF pricing/marketing/evangelism since it was an Allaire
product. CF continues to be a relatively successful niche product, despite
everyone's prediction of imminent doom for over ten years. I wonder how many
people'll be using RoR in ten years. I wonder what Microsoft will have
replaced ASP.NET with in ten years. Whatever happened to poor old "classic"
ASP, anyway?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

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