> You keep saying that Adobe is targeting the enterprise. Most > enterprises I know are not using ColdFusion, and are using > .NET because .Net is more "enterprisey". If they have money > and want to invest in the JAVA technology, they will go for > something like Websphere.
I didn't say they were successfully targeting the enterprise - although I think they are, based on the sales I've seen - or that most enterprises are using CF - I don't ever expect to see CF be the dominant web application server. I said they're targeting the enterprise. I think that's fairly self-evident, based on their pricing model. Again, though, it doesn't really matter whether it's the dominant technology, to Adobe - the only thing that matters to Adobe is whether they're maximizing their profit. And, for what it's worth, I've seen several environments with CF on WebSphere. > ColdFusion is just not an enterprise ready technology, and it > won't be until they at least support x64. Very few enterprises are using x64 for production application servers, as far as I can tell. Most enterprises, again as far as I can tell, are not early adopters. The enterprises I'm working with, that are using CF, would disagree with your characterization of CF as not "enterprise-ready". Your observations may be different from mine, of course. > ColdFusion is best aimed at SMBs IMHO. They are the ones > that can make the most use of it, and they are the ones that > I feel make up the bulk of Adobe's revenues for Cf. Again, this is a matter of your opinion. Your opinion (and mine, for that matter) are irrelevant, since neither of us are responsible for CF pricing and licensing at Adobe. I don't know why I bother responding to these threads, though. People have been griping about CF pricing/marketing/evangelism since it was an Allaire product. CF continues to be a relatively successful niche product, despite everyone's prediction of imminent doom for over ten years. I wonder how many people'll be using RoR in ten years. I wonder what Microsoft will have replaced ASP.NET with in ten years. Whatever happened to poor old "classic" ASP, anyway? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Training: Adobe/Google/Paperthin Certified Partners http://training.figleaf.com/ WebManiacs 2008: the ultimate conference for CF/Flex/AIR developers! http://www.webmaniacsconference.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:298491 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4

