Even though there are objections, I would be willing to accept a CF
class requiring the developer edition to be installed on all lab
machines.  Keep in mind though that installation and configuration of
the application server might be outside of the scope of the curriculum
for that class if is an entry level course.

Regardless of the classroom talk though, my last post was more targeted
at the college students who are going to spend four years experimenting
in their dorm room writing apps in every language they can get their
hands on.  These are the resume-holding people that graduate and go out
into the world and help drive up or down the numbers of available
programmers for a particular language.  When I was in college learning
how to build web apps for the first time, I wanted something I could
actually put on the internet and tell my mom to go look at.  ColdFusion
developer edition would not have been that answer for me.  Without my
friend letting me use his server I would have certainly used my personal
site on the school server which only offered Perl and PHP.  Why?
Because they were free.

I experimented with a number of Microsoft apps while I was in college
and graduated with some knowledge of them.  Why?  Because Microsoft
courted my school (along with any other educational institution) and
offered tons of free _fully functional_ Microsoft software for me to
play with for the duration of my student-hood. 

If Adobe doesn't want to do that, I understand--  It is their decision.
But, I gotta' say as bitter-sweet as my feelings are for Microsoft, I
think that was a smart move on their part.  I really, really want to see
large scale adoption of CF, Flex, Air, etc.  That's why I am in favor of
anything which will help that.

~Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better

As a student you typically do not have to pay to be able to put up a
hosted
PHP page.  Most universities give their students free web accounts and
most
of those accounts have access to PHP.  At least that has been my
experience
with three major Universities here in Texas.  There are of course
limitations to what you can do, for example I know the University of
Houston
provides the accounts, PHP, and even Oracle accounts but I do not think
they
provide a way for students to run PHP pages that connect to the Oracle
database.

I personally do not see why a class could not be taught using no more
than
the developer version of CF.  Each workstation would have it loaded up
as
would the teacher's machine.

On Feb 7, 2008 1:56 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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