Even though there are objections, I would be willing to accept a CF class requiring the developer edition to be installed on all lab machines. Keep in mind though that installation and configuration of the application server might be outside of the scope of the curriculum for that class if is an entry level course.
Regardless of the classroom talk though, my last post was more targeted at the college students who are going to spend four years experimenting in their dorm room writing apps in every language they can get their hands on. These are the resume-holding people that graduate and go out into the world and help drive up or down the numbers of available programmers for a particular language. When I was in college learning how to build web apps for the first time, I wanted something I could actually put on the internet and tell my mom to go look at. ColdFusion developer edition would not have been that answer for me. Without my friend letting me use his server I would have certainly used my personal site on the school server which only offered Perl and PHP. Why? Because they were free. I experimented with a number of Microsoft apps while I was in college and graduated with some knowledge of them. Why? Because Microsoft courted my school (along with any other educational institution) and offered tons of free _fully functional_ Microsoft software for me to play with for the duration of my student-hood. If Adobe doesn't want to do that, I understand-- It is their decision. But, I gotta' say as bitter-sweet as my feelings are for Microsoft, I think that was a smart move on their part. I really, really want to see large scale adoption of CF, Flex, Air, etc. That's why I am in favor of anything which will help that. ~Brad -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion: Some People Just Don't Know Any Better As a student you typically do not have to pay to be able to put up a hosted PHP page. Most universities give their students free web accounts and most of those accounts have access to PHP. At least that has been my experience with three major Universities here in Texas. There are of course limitations to what you can do, for example I know the University of Houston provides the accounts, PHP, and even Oracle accounts but I do not think they provide a way for students to run PHP pages that connect to the Oracle database. I personally do not see why a class could not be taught using no more than the developer version of CF. Each workstation would have it loaded up as would the teacher's machine. On Feb 7, 2008 1:56 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:298485 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

