I didn't name them. Just love them. :-) On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Mike Kear <[email protected]> wrote:
> huh? the COMPARE product is the one that copies data and structure > between two servers??? Really?? > > Cheers > MIke Kear > > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 4:28 PM, John M Bliss <[email protected]> wrote: > > I can't live without Red-Gate... > > > >> Which of them do you use to copy/duplicate/synchronise > > > > http://www.red-gate.com/products/SQL_Compare/ for DB structure. > > http://www.red-gate.com/products/SQL_Data_Compare/ for DB contents. > > > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Kear <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Thanks Paul. I see those Red gates packages are a series of $395 > >> applications. My tiny company isn't going to afford $5000 worth of > >> tools, or even the bundle price around $1000. > >> > >> Which of them do you use to copy/duplicate/synchronise databases > >> between two servers? > >> > >> Cheers > >> Mike Kear > >> Windsor, NSW, Australia > >> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > >> AFP Webworks > >> http://afpwebworks.com > >> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Paul Kukiel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > We recently got Red gates toolbelt SQL tools. Like you upgrading/ > >> > moving databases was time consuming and difficult. Now its just so > >> > much easier. http://www.red-gate.com/products/ > >> > SQL_Professional_Toolbelt/index.htm > >> > > >> > Paul Kukiel > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 04/01/2009, at 7:30 PM, Mike Kear wrote: > >> > > >> >> I'm heartily sick of the tedious way I have to spend half a day or > >> >> more EACH WEEK uploading and downloading databases from my > >> >> SQLServer2005 web sites. > >> >> I'm going to have another go at learning the best way to do this . . > >> >> > >> >> Can someone please give me some help... IN the old days I used > >> >> to have a > >> >> DTS task running overnight automatically, copying databases to and > >> >> from my dev environment to the production web sites. > >> >> > >> >> Since SQLServer2005 there has been no way that I can find, to create > >> >> a DTS task and reuse it EACH TIME I have to create it, and > regardless > >> >> of whether I save the DTS task or not, it's not available next time > >> >> for me to reuse. > >> >> I have ot create it all over again. Needless to say it's really > >> >> PISSING > >> >> ME OFF! > >> >> > >> >> Can someone please tell me how I can create a method of copying > entire > >> >> databases which might have 40tables or more with the indexes, and key > >> >> relationships etc from remote servers to my local database server, > or > >> >> conversely from my dev environment to my production server. > >> >> > >> >> And also how I can do this in a way that the task is repeatable > >> >> without having to be created every time. > >> >> > >> >> I've tried using Visual Studio 2005 but that has finally defeated me. > >> >> I can never find what I want to use, and the MS Help files are total > >> >> gobbldegook > >> >> to me. I cant make head nor tail of it. After 3 years of > >> >> wrestling with > >> >> Visual Studio I have had to give up. There's no way to save any > >> >> file from > >> >> that and reuse it. Not that I've found anyway. The best I've > ever > >> >> managed to do is create a solution, and run debug every time. > >> >> And that > >> >> takes 30 minutes to an hour to run a simple job of copying 3 tables, > >> >> and ties up my machine completely for the duration. > >> >> > >> >> I'm sure my problem is that I'm trying to use the wrong tools, or > >> >> that I just don't know how to use the tools correctly, but I'm > >> >> despairing of ever getting back to the neat and tidy way I had to do > >> >> this in the old SQLServer2000 days. > >> >> > >> >> Incidentally, just as an additional comment to my plea ... > >> >> > >> >> I cant use the copy database wizard, because it's a shared server and > >> >> I don't have admin rights. So I cant create a database on the > >> >> remote server using SQLServer management studio. > >> >> > >> >> For the same reason I cant create a backup and then restore it on the > >> >> other server.. > >> >> > >> >> For the same reason I cant use replication in any way. > >> >> > >> >> For the same reason, detaching, FTP then attach to the other server > is > >> >> out as well. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I think Microsoft forgot entirely about the thousands of people using > >> >> shared hosting servers when they developed SQLServer2005. And I'm > >> >> told there's no provision for it in the new 2008 version either. > >> >> <sigh> > >> >> > >> >> So what do the rest of you people on shared hosts do?? > >> >> -- > >> >> Cheers > >> >> Mike Kear > >> >> Windsor, NSW, Australia > >> >> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > >> >> AFP Webworks > >> >> http://afpwebworks.com > >> >> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317384 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
