I think it's called SSIS or something, but awfully complicated and I never
got it to work....

I copy production to dev by simply restoring a production backup on the dev
server.

For db alterations I do it all in TSQL scripts tested and known to work on
the dev server, and then run on the production one.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kukiel [mailto:pkuk...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 05 January 2009 14:52
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: How do you guys deploy databases to shared servers?

Yes these are the 2 that I use.  I haven't even used the rest of them.

Regards,

Paul

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:28 AM, John M Bliss <bliss.j...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't live without Red-Gate...
>
> > Which of them do you use to copy/duplicate/synchronise
>
> http://www.red-gate.com/products/SQL_Compare/ for DB structure.
> http://www.red-gate.com/products/SQL_Data_Compare/ for DB contents.
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Kear <afpwebwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Paul.  I see those Red gates packages are a series of $395
> > applications.  My tiny company isn't going to afford $5000 worth of
> > tools,  or even the bundle price around $1000.
> >
> > Which of them do you use to copy/duplicate/synchronise databases
> > between two servers?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Mike Kear
> > Windsor, NSW, Australia
> > Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> > AFP Webworks
> > http://afpwebworks.com
> > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Paul Kukiel <pkuk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We recently got Red gates toolbelt SQL tools.  Like you upgrading/
> > > moving databases was time consuming and difficult.  Now its just so
> > > much easier.  http://www.red-gate.com/products/
> > > SQL_Professional_Toolbelt/index.htm
> > >
> > > Paul Kukiel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 04/01/2009, at 7:30 PM, Mike Kear wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm heartily sick of the tedious way I have to spend half a day or
> > >> more EACH WEEK uploading and downloading databases from my
> > >> SQLServer2005 web sites.
> > >> I'm going to have another go at learning the best way to do this . .
> > >>
> > >> Can someone please give me some help...    IN the old days I used
> > >> to have a
> > >> DTS task running overnight automatically, copying databases to and
> > >> from my dev environment to the production web sites.
> > >>
> > >> Since SQLServer2005 there has been no way that I can find,  to create
> > >> a DTS task and reuse it  EACH TIME I have to create it, and
regardless
> > >> of whether I save the DTS task or not,  it's not available next time
> > >> for me to reuse.
> > >> I have ot create it all over again.    Needless to say it's really
> > >> PISSING
> > >> ME OFF!
> > >>
> > >> Can someone please tell me how I can create a method of copying
entire
> > >> databases which might have 40tables or more with the indexes, and key
> > >> relationships etc from remote servers to my local database server,
or
> > >> conversely from my dev environment to my production server.
> > >>
> > >> And also how I can do this in a way that the task is repeatable
> > >> without having to be created every time.
> > >>
> > >> I've tried using Visual Studio 2005 but that has finally defeated me.
> > >> I can never find what I want to use,  and the MS Help files are total
> > >> gobbldegook
> > >> to me.   I cant make head nor tail of it.  After 3 years of
> > >> wrestling with
> > >> Visual Studio I have had to give up.  There's no way to save any
> > >> file from
> > >> that and reuse it.   Not that I've found anyway.    The best I've
ever
> > >> managed to do is create a solution,  and run debug every time.
> > >> And that
> > >> takes 30 minutes to an hour to run a simple job of copying 3 tables,
> > >> and ties up my machine completely for the duration.
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure my problem is that I'm trying to use the wrong tools,  or
> > >> that I just don't know how to use the tools correctly,  but I'm
> > >> despairing of ever getting back to the neat and tidy way I had to do
> > >> this in the old SQLServer2000 days.
> > >>
> > >> Incidentally, just as an additional comment to my plea ...
> > >>
> > >> I cant use the copy database wizard, because it's a shared server and
> > >> I don't have admin rights.    So I cant create a database on the
> > >> remote server using SQLServer management studio.
> > >>
> > >> For the same reason I cant create a backup and then restore it on the
> > >> other server..
> > >>
> > >> For the same reason I cant use replication in any way.
> > >>
> > >> For the same reason, detaching, FTP then attach to the other server
is
> > >> out as well.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I think Microsoft forgot entirely about the thousands of people using
> > >> shared hosting servers when they developed SQLServer2005.   And I'm
> > >> told there's no provision for it in the new 2008 version either.
> > >> <sigh>
> > >>
> > >> So what do the rest of you people on shared hosts do??
> > >> --
> > >> Cheers
> > >> Mike Kear
> > >> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> > >> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> > >> AFP Webworks
> > >> http://afpwebworks.com
> > >> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 



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