We are working to find an alternative way to license ColdFusion to hosting companies that is more cost effective for the smaller shops.
However, it's a common misconception that the price of ColdFusion is proportionate to the cost of hosting. Hosting companies don't pay anywhere near list price. For one specific host we discounted the cost of ColdFusion 8 by over $1M in good faith, and asked the hosting company not to charge more for CF than they do for ASP/PHP. In the end, the hosting company decided not to alter it's prices because the CF community is willing to pay the premium. Can't say I really blame them, after all ColdFusion is a premium server/language compared to the the competition. This is my personal opinion, so please take it with a grain of salt, but I don't believe the shared hosting model will be around much longer. The costs of virtual private machines has been steadily dropping and cloud vendors like Amazon and Microsoft are driving costs down. Today Amazon offers a Linux AMI for as little as $40/month. Rather than spend engineering resources on a proprietary user/domain model that hosting companies would likely ignore, I'd rather remain focused on innovating ColdFusion development and try to bring a lost-cost version of CF to market that makes virtual machine hosting cheaper than shared hosting. Do you really want to spend another decade sharing a directory? If you are willing to take the risk to move to one of the clone engines, you should check out OpenBD on the Google App Engine. Free is hard to beat. ;-) -Adam On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Paul Alkema <[email protected]>wrote: > > Hey Gerald, > I definitely agree with Kevin, If you're looking for a great CFML engine to > run on your server and don't have the $$ for Adobe's ColdFusion, look into > Railo. I develop on both and have found Railo to be very comparable to > Adobe's Coldfusion. > http://www.getrailo.org/index.cfm/download/#primary > > Paul Alkema > http://www.AlkemaDesigns.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:23 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: Possible switch to CFEclipse > > > While I have your attention. Could you, meaning Adobe, for the love of God > and all that supports the CF community at large, put out a version of CF > Server that a hosting company can use that offers some sort of user/domain > based security with out us having to shell out $7500? > > Or in other terms: An affordable way to for us (the community) to provide > Adobe ColdFusion hosting? > > Thanx > G! > > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Adrocknaphobia > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > Aptana, jQuery, ExtJS and AIR are all baked into ColdFusion Builder... > with > > just one install. > > > > -Adam > > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Andy Matthews <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Aptana also has a plugin which allows you to code for Adobe AIR. > > > > > > http://andymatthews.net/category/AIR/ > > > > > > > > > andy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:39 PM > > > To: cf-talk > > > Subject: Re: Possible switch to CFEclipse > > > > > > > > > >>I am currently using Homesite+ for my IDE a > > > > > > I made that leap a couple of years ago. This is my rig that I have been > > > tweeking for the last couple of years and the "what and why" of what I > > use > > > for CF/Web work. > > > > > > One thing to remember with Eclipse. More Plugins = More ram. I also > make > > it > > > a habit to jack up the RAM allotted to Eclipse from 256 megs to 512 in > > the > > > eclipse.ini file. This will speed things up considerably. > > > > > > I start off with the PHP Eclipse distro because, well, I work with PHP > a > > > lot. But even if I didn't, it has a lot of the basic tools I use for > web > > > dev. Like support for XAMPP, Mysql etc > > > > > > Then I add the Aptana plugin and add it's plugins for Ajax, SVN, AIR > > > support > > > and what ever tickles my fancy at that moment. Some people are very > vocal > > > against Aptana (I mean some people just flat out despise it) . It has a > > > nasty habit of firing up it's start up page every time you load it. > You > > > can > > > turn this off by going to: > > > > > > Window > Preferences >Aapata > Start up page >> and disable the start > up > > > page > > > > > > If you ask me, Aptana is fantastic for working with (X)HTML, CSS, JS, > > Ajax, > > > and in particular it's jQuery/JS support. It provides auto suggest, > auto > > > complete and inline help CSS, html, JS including all of the major > AJAX/JS > > > libraries as well as (inspection) for your own custom JS Libraries (and > > > help > > > as long as you document them). I really like it's CSS editor a lot. > > > > > > Then I add the Adobe CF 8.1 plugins and plop the CF 8.1 docs in the > > Plugins > > > folder for good measure. > > > > > > Then Finally I install CFEclipse. > > > > > > I also Use XMLBuddy a lot because, well, I like it. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > G! > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Terry Troxel <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I do not want to start a flame here, just get some information to > help > > > > me make a decision. > > > > I am using CF8 and not yet ready for CF9. I am currently using > > > > Homesite+ for my IDE and would like to know what the requirements are > > > > for installing Eclipse and CFEclipse on my 32 bit dual core laptop > w/3 > > > > gigs of ram. > > > > I do not know anyone who is currently using it which is why I am > > > > asking here. I do not do any Java programming at all and am planning > > > > on using it to replace Homesite if that is possible and maybe get > some > > > > advise from all of you. > > > > If you recommend Eclipse, which package and other plugins do I need > as > > > > well? > > > > > > > > Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330739 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
