> Any other measure is just irrational and misguided. Have you ever felt indignant, Dave? This discussion is not *just* about being rational. It has to do with personal, subjective perspective. Opinions... You can't put values on feelings of indignation in order to quantify them.
> because the work that you do writing CF is non-original, and relies on the power of the ColdFusion server, and is significantly less complicated than writing the ColdFusion server, you charge significantly less for your time, right? You better believe it's less costly! If I had to develop a language and a server to process it, I would charge a lot more. Wouldn't you? And, again, Adobe is free to charge whatever they like, but it would be nice to feel like Adobe wanted to help it's community thrive by contributing to its success without always charging so much to enable that success. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:30 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released! > This is more of a moral argument than a financial one. > > No, I haven't been privy to the development of CFB, but it just > appears that they have piggy-backed on the work of a lot of others > who work for no cost (at least on the product)...CFEclipse and Eclipse, > and are charging a lot for work they didn't have to do. > > Now, sure, they can charge whatever they want, just as I can. But if I > quote a large amount to a regular client that they feel is unjustified for > my effort and their benefit, you can bet there would be some howls of > indignation. > > They can charge what they want, but that doesn't mean they are > right to charge any amount when a lot of the work in developing > the IDE (interface, plug-in style, etc., Eclipse and CFEclipse) was done by > others. > > Dreamweaver: Original product built from the ground up...charging > $300...justified > > CFBuilder: Non-original, tack-on plug-in, whose user interface isn't > even original (purposefully created this way, I'm sure, so > so that Eclipse and CFEclipse users would make an easy > transition to its use...again a benefit to Adobe by from the > work of others)...charging $300...not justified So, presumably, because the work that you do writing CF is non-original, and relies on the power of the ColdFusion server, and is significantly less complicated than writing the ColdFusion server, you charge significantly less for your time, right? I mean, thinking about my own career as a CF developer, the sum total of all the CF software I've written is almost certainly less sophisticated, less complex, etc than the CF server itself. So, presumably, I should have made no more than the cost of CF Enterprise, right? Long story short: your indignation is misplaced. Nearly all software is based on other software; maybe not in so obvious a fashion, but I doubt that the Dreamweaver team wrote everything in assembler. > And, yes, I could make back the money soon if it cost $1000...that's not the > point. Well, no, that's exactly the point. That is the ONLY measure for software value that makes sense. Any other measure is just irrational and misguided. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our trai ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332050 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
