Surprise, I can use ColdFusion Builder to develop to a degree, .Net applications. There is a plujgin for Eclipse to do that. Might not be 5% of the real thing, but hey its there.
Secondly, Adobe have built this on existing technology that without it ColdFusion Builder would be nothing. Not to mention that Aptan provides a lot of what Adobe didn't have to write as well, which means that a good 80% of the product is not Adobes code. What is left, in my eyes may be a time saver if the features actually worked reliably. Is it worth the $299.00, not in my eyes. Even after looking at the feature matrix for ColdFusion Builder doesn't pursuade that on me either. Granted, they have put a lot of work into some areas of the IDE. But a lot of that has been fixing problems and getting it to play nice too. So you can't compare the man hours to get an acurate price either. Adobe spent a good 12 months just trying to get the actual Aptana editor to actual be faster, if they wrote it themselves like CFEclipse did then they wouldn't have spent that amount if time on the product. So if we compare the man hours gone into the project, my question is should we pay for their bad mistakes and.or choices? On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Dave Watts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I think the proof will be in the pudding, Adobe has 800k ColdFusion > > developers. So that means if they have it priced right they should get > > around 40% plus buying the program. > > far as I can tell. But CF Builder is no Visual Studio, which is aimed > at building any kind of .NET program you can think of - console apps, > desktop apps, Windows Mobile 6 apps, etc, etc. > > > My forecast is that they will be lucky to reach 2% in sales of all those > > ColdFusion Developers. > > My forecast is that I'm 98% likely to make a snide remark about how > econ 101 should be a mandatory course if this thread continues. But in > all seriousness, presumably the people at Adobe have put more thought > into their product pricing than you or I have. > > Imagine that some guy on the internet were to tell you how to price > your services. Not someone with any demonstrated expertise in your > field, mind you, just someone who has a vague idea of how your > business works. Would you take that advice? > > Now, of course, that is exactly what you're doing, isn't it? I'm > presuming here that you don't have any experience selling non-custom > desktop software intended for the developer market, where your target > is to sell multiple thousands of copies - if I'm wrong about that, I > apologize in advance. Adobe does have some experience in that field, > of course, what with Creative Suite, Flash Builder, LiveCycle > Designer, etc, etc. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332470 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
