> If they convert 'x'% of Flex developers (who currently don't
> use CF on the server side) to CF

Seems like it would be a hard sale to convince someone who currently
uses free server-side software to suddenly pony-up $1200 for CF Server
just because they now have a CF IDE...

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!


I don't think the overall number of CF developers matters.  CFBuilder isn't
really aimed at -every- CF developer (I don't think... this, of course, is
purely conjecture on my part).

Not too long ago, Ben F. blogged that only a relatively small number of CF
developers even use CFCs.  Let's say it's 20% (i think that's actually
higher than the % Ben had suggested).  So 80% of CF developers are "5
taggers".  They're not going to see the value in most of the features of CF
Builder.

So... I'd say the 2% might be pretty close to what they've actually
targeted.  And given that they may be targeting a very small percentage of
their user base, it wouldn't make sense to price it too low.

And since I got sucked back into the convo (I'm an asshole), I'll also say
that I don't agree with the assertion that Adobe thinks CF Builder is worth
$50.  I'd argue that they're bundling it at a discount and considering the
"loss" an investment in attempting to cross-promote between CF and Flex
communities.  If they convert 'x'% of Flex developers (who currently don't
use CF on the server side) to CF, the short-term loss turns into a long term
gain.

(again, IMO).


On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Andrew Scott
<andr...@andyscott.id.au>wrote:

>
> No its not Dave.
>
> I think the proof will be in the pudding, Adobe has 800k ColdFusion
> developers. So that means if they have it priced right they should get
> around 40% plus buying the program.
>
> My forecast is that they will be lucky to reach 2% in sales of all those
> ColdFusion Developers.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2010 2:43 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: ColdFusion Builder Released!
>
> Is this really the first time you've encountered product bundling? Do
> you really think that the additional cost of a bundled product
> translates directly into the value of the product if sold separately?
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
>
> 



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