haha cf_thugs what what On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Tony Weeg <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > you're my boy blue! you know always have my support! > > Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. > > On Jan 21, 2011, at 4:57 AM, Adrocknaphobia <adrocknapho...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Well I think perspective makes a difference. Hopefully you can understand > > that I'm exposed to much more of the community than those on this list > might > > be - especially the anti-Adobe sentiment. 3 years ago when I blogged > about > > OpenBD, I was right to be skeptic given the history of New Atlanta. Back > > then I feared that this would cause a divide in our already small > community, > > which it unfortunately has (whether you choose to believe it or not). > > > > If you need any evidence of the anti-CF comments, feel free to browse my > > blog comments. Some are quick to forget all that CF has done in the past > and > > continues to do to support this community. I think some also forget that > the > > ColdFusion team is made up of human beings with real feelings. We pour > our > > hearts and energy into this product and community. Then along comes a few > > people who decide to build a near identical clone of ColdFusion. After > > several failed years of trying to compete with CF commercially, they give > > the product away through open source and market directly to ColdFusion > > customers. Suddenly they are heros and can do no wrong. How do you think > > this makes the _people_ behind CF feel? So yes, I am commonly guilty of > > letting my emotions get the better of me and I fight back when I should > take > > the high road and ignore our critics. I'm human... and I'm proud of the > work > > my team does. Whether the threat is PHP or Railo, I'm going to defend my > > product and my team. > > > > Which ever way you slice it, OpenBD/Railo are the direct competitors of > > ColdFusion. I know some wish that wasn't the case, but it that is the > > reality of the world we live in. > > > > The point of my message was to express unity with Russ's comments. > However, > > Russ has a tendency to throw in jabs about Adobe's view on the open > source > > competitors. > > > > As far as OpenCFML goes. It failed from a lack of contribution from Railo > > and OpenBD. The only thing I'm guilty of was being honest with community. > > > > -Adam > > > > On Jan 21, 2011 2:30 AM, "Larry Lyons" <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Excuse me who has been very hostile to the open source community, for > > instance your recent comment on CFEclipse is a very good example. Or your > > comments about Open BlueDragon when it first started for another. > > > > And you cannot say its a defensive matter on your part. So when you start > > that sort of crap its hypocrisy on your part. If anything the Open Source > > community in CF is trying to grow the CF community. The only hostility > I've > > really seen has been on YOUR part. > > > > The fact is that the availability of alternative open source engines > > deflates the often used argument against CF about it costing too much. > > Moreover the open source CF engines serve to get more into coldfusion. > For > > instance 3 sites I've developed started off using Open BlueDragon. Later > > each one of those moved up to CF Standard. That is something that would > not > > have happened without the open source CF engine. With your attitude > towards > > the open source community, its serving to hurt further expansion of the > CF > > community. That is detrimental to Adobe's bottom line in the long run. > > > > > > > >> Russ, > >> > >> You're preaching to the choir... well except for that last part which is > >> ridiculous. Th... > > > >> to. > >>> > >>> The other reasons I hear :- > >>> > >>> Lack of decent developers (for companies that use contr... > >> seen > >> a > >> shops > >> close > >> movement > >> in > >> will > >> generation. > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341099 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
