I'm not telling Adobe how to run their business. I'm telling other CF devs my opinion on two specific topics as they relate to business. You make me sound like I'm at the gates with a pitchfork and torch.
I never said they should rewrite any applications. You can mask the use of php (or cf or any other language) without a whole lot of effort or expense, in the grand scheme of things. You can still use PHP or Ruby or Klingon, you just don't need to advertise it with ".php" at the end of the url. That's optics. And it's important. An argument could also be made that if one spent the last 10 years of ones life fully immersed in the CF community, that one might actually have a fairly insular view of CF. One that would seem to argue against having a decent amount of exposure to the rest of the world. So I guess we'll agree to disagree here. My only horse in this race is CF and it's lack luster ascendancy. On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Dave Watts <dwa...@figleaf.com> wrote: > > > No, I don't think there's a bottomless pit of money. That's quite a leap > > Dave. I've said two negative things about Adobe (ever). The first is that > it > > doesn't do enough to market CF. This is not an uncommon opinion. And the > > second is that it looks silly to not have your site run on the web dev > > technology you sell. To me this also seems like a completely reasonable > > statement to make. You also don't need to rewrite your whole site just to > > mask the use of PHP. And it doesn't require a bottomless pit of money. So > I > > think you're painting a dramatic picture of my comments that's > disingenuous. > > It's neither dramatic nor disingenuous. You think it's obvious that > the marketing value of rewriting dozens or more web applications would > outweigh the cost. I disagree. Apparently, so does whoever makes these > decisions at Adobe. > > > You also keep saying how you don't know Adobe's business yet you have no > > problem telling others that their opinions about how Adobe does business > is > > out to lunch. So which is it? > > I think you should read what I wrote more carefully. You're saying > that they should do something other than they're doing. You're the one > telling them how to run their business. I'm not. I assume that they > know their business better than you or I do. If it were my business, > I'd probably do the same thing, but that's really irrelevant. > > > Also, how do you know this is the ONLY place that's ever noticed the > Adobe > > isn't running on CF? Are you sure that didn't mean to say it's the only > > place YOU'VE seen it? Or are you really that knowledgeable that you have > the > > intertubes indexed? > > I think you should safely assume that whenever anyone talks about > absolutes, they're speaking about their own experiences. If I say that > the sun comes up every day, I'm speaking about my experience. > > That said, I do spend quite a bit of time talking to other people > about CF, and participating in other developer communities. I'm on all > sorts of mailing lists. I've been working with CF for more than ten > years. I've presented CF solutions for conferences, etc. I teach a lot > of classes, for CF and other things, and I tell my students about CF > whether it's a CF class or not. So I think I probably have a decent > amount of exposure to the rest of the world. And this is the only > place where it comes up. > > I also do a lot of work for Google, who does in fact have the > intertubes indexed. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341599 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
