Hi Russ,

With 30 years in the IT business and over 20 of them as an IT Manager I am
fully aware of the implications of server vulnerability.

A hosting environment is a very different scenario to a single developer
using a single server for testing and live applications.

Sure, in an ideal world we'd all love to run on dedicated and managed live
servers well apart from our test environment.

Having run with hosted, dedicated, managed servers for some years I have
found their up-time is no better than I am able to achieve with my own local
server which I manage.  (For what it's worth I have the tested stats to
prove that.)

Unless a dedicated server can be assured in a hosting enviromnent you are
sharing a server with god knows who.

As you know as a Host, you can't vet the quality of the developers using
your servers, or whoever else they might let "tinker" with their web sites.

Jenny Gavin-Wear
Fast Track Online
Tel: 01262 602013
http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/


-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
Sent: 24 April 2011 00:43
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: IIS Question



Jenny i'm not sure what evidence you have to quality that statement, but you
couldn't be more wrong, bad code sure can take down a web server and even a
database server, it happens every day.
With 10+ years in the hosting business I personally see it happen all the
time and consult with many customers to diagnose and fix the cause of the
problem.



On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear <
jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Hi Russ,
>
> See your point, but the actual likely hood of taking down a server with
> code
> is pretty small.
>
> You can always set up IIS/CF on your local PC anyway and avoid the
problem.
> The only issue then is the database, as you are unlikely to be running a
> server o/s on your pc, assuming the database requires a server o/s - I'm
> using MS SQL, for example.
>
> But yes, separate everything out.  2 web sites in IIS, 2 databases, 2 CF
DB
> connections, etc with very clear and regulated naming conventions.
>
> Jenny Gavin-Wear
> Fast Track Online
> http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
> Sent: 23 April 2011 20:58
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: IIS Question
>
>
>
> as you are running both development and production on the same server I
> would also suggest you take measures to isolate them as this is a very bad
> setup you have as your untested development code could take down CF and
> thus
> the live site.
>
> I suggest you run CF multi in server mode and run 2 instances, 1 for live
> and one for dev.
> You should run every site on its own application pool to avoid any iis
> issues.
>
> If you have no idea what any of that means, then you really shouldn't be
> trying to manage a production web server for your client, so you should
> speak with your host about management services or at least a hosting
> control
> panel that will do it for you. For windows I recommend Website Panel.
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Dave Watts <dwa...@figleaf.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > But confused if IIS can point to two different drives? How to find out
> > which drive the IIS point out to.. I hope I am not vague with my
question
> >
> > A single IIS server can have many IIS sites, or virtual servers. These
> > can point to wherever you want them to point. Presumably, this machine
> > has at least two IIS sites. You can view the list of sites in the IIS
> > management console, and can right-click on each as Brian mentioned to
> > see the filesystem location where each points.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > http://training.figleaf.com/
> >
> > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>



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