Russ, 1. No, I do not believe that it is only possible for code to bring a server down in a hosted environment, I never said that. 2. The bandwidth requirement I have matches my needs, thanks for asking. 3. I don't take holidays and I'm pretty much here 24/7 so my support to my customers is _at_least_ as fast as yours. 4. I test my code on my own PC running CF. 5. I don't see that it's any of your business how I choose to run my business. 6. I certainly don't see why I should qualify myself to you.
You make too many assumptions before asking questions about a persons enviromnent and circumstances. Russ, most of the time in CF-Talk I see you being a really helpful guy, but I do wish you would stop to think a little before behaving so "poorly" - and I'm being polite! Maybe with a little more experience, even age, you'll be able to handle yourself better. Not everyone can afford what you are offering, did you stop to think about that? You have no idea how many sites I am running on my server or what the traffic is like. I do, I see great performance, my customers agree. Not that it's any of your business, but I have all the "peering" I need to run one server, thank you. The original poster asked a very straight forward question, he didn't ask to have his circumstances analyzed by you. Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 April 2011 02:05 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: IIS Question So you believe that code can only bring a server down in a hosted environment and that hosting a live production site off your local development machine (presumably running off a ADSL connection) is not better than a server in a data centre with monitoring, power generators, professional peering and bandwidth...... Crikey, I don't even know what to say in response to that, obviously your 30 years in I.T have been well spent, well done. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear < [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Russ, > > With 30 years in the IT business and over 20 of them as an IT Manager I am > fully aware of the implications of server vulnerability. > > A hosting environment is a very different scenario to a single developer > using a single server for testing and live applications. > > Sure, in an ideal world we'd all love to run on dedicated and managed live > servers well apart from our test environment. > > Having run with hosted, dedicated, managed servers for some years I have > found their up-time is no better than I am able to achieve with my own > local > server which I manage. (For what it's worth I have the tested stats to > prove that.) > > Unless a dedicated server can be assured in a hosting enviromnent you are > sharing a server with god knows who. > > As you know as a Host, you can't vet the quality of the developers using > your servers, or whoever else they might let "tinker" with their web sites. > > Jenny Gavin-Wear > Fast Track Online > Tel: 01262 602013 > http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 24 April 2011 00:43 > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: IIS Question > > > > Jenny i'm not sure what evidence you have to quality that statement, but > you > couldn't be more wrong, bad code sure can take down a web server and even a > database server, it happens every day. > With 10+ years in the hosting business I personally see it happen all the > time and consult with many customers to diagnose and fix the cause of the > problem. > > > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Russ, > > > > See your point, but the actual likely hood of taking down a server with > > code > > is pretty small. > > > > You can always set up IIS/CF on your local PC anyway and avoid the > problem. > > The only issue then is the database, as you are unlikely to be running a > > server o/s on your pc, assuming the database requires a server o/s - I'm > > using MS SQL, for example. > > > > But yes, separate everything out. 2 web sites in IIS, 2 databases, 2 CF > DB > > connections, etc with very clear and regulated naming conventions. > > > > Jenny Gavin-Wear > > Fast Track Online > > http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 23 April 2011 20:58 > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: IIS Question > > > > > > > > as you are running both development and production on the same server I > > would also suggest you take measures to isolate them as this is a very > bad > > setup you have as your untested development code could take down CF and > > thus > > the live site. > > > > I suggest you run CF multi in server mode and run 2 instances, 1 for live > > and one for dev. > > You should run every site on its own application pool to avoid any iis > > issues. > > > > If you have no idea what any of that means, then you really shouldn't be > > trying to manage a production web server for your client, so you should > > speak with your host about management services or at least a hosting > > control > > panel that will do it for you. For windows I recommend Website Panel. > > > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Dave Watts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > But confused if IIS can point to two different drives? How to find > out > > > which drive the IIS point out to.. I hope I am not vague with my > question > > > > > > A single IIS server can have many IIS sites, or virtual servers. These > > > can point to wherever you want them to point. Presumably, this machine > > > has at least two IIS sites. You can view the list of sites in the IIS > > > management console, and can right-click on each as Brian mentioned to > > > see the filesystem location where each points. > > > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > > > > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343937 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
