So you believe that code can only bring a server down in a hosted environment and that hosting a live production site off your local development machine (presumably running off a ADSL connection) is not better than a server in a data centre with monitoring, power generators, professional peering and bandwidth...... Crikey, I don't even know what to say in response to that, obviously your 30 years in I.T have been well spent, well done.
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear < jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi Russ, > > With 30 years in the IT business and over 20 of them as an IT Manager I am > fully aware of the implications of server vulnerability. > > A hosting environment is a very different scenario to a single developer > using a single server for testing and live applications. > > Sure, in an ideal world we'd all love to run on dedicated and managed live > servers well apart from our test environment. > > Having run with hosted, dedicated, managed servers for some years I have > found their up-time is no better than I am able to achieve with my own > local > server which I manage. (For what it's worth I have the tested stats to > prove that.) > > Unless a dedicated server can be assured in a hosting enviromnent you are > sharing a server with god knows who. > > As you know as a Host, you can't vet the quality of the developers using > your servers, or whoever else they might let "tinker" with their web sites. > > Jenny Gavin-Wear > Fast Track Online > Tel: 01262 602013 > http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] > Sent: 24 April 2011 00:43 > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: IIS Question > > > > Jenny i'm not sure what evidence you have to quality that statement, but > you > couldn't be more wrong, bad code sure can take down a web server and even a > database server, it happens every day. > With 10+ years in the hosting business I personally see it happen all the > time and consult with many customers to diagnose and fix the cause of the > problem. > > > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Jenny Gavin-Wear < > jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > Hi Russ, > > > > See your point, but the actual likely hood of taking down a server with > > code > > is pretty small. > > > > You can always set up IIS/CF on your local PC anyway and avoid the > problem. > > The only issue then is the database, as you are unlikely to be running a > > server o/s on your pc, assuming the database requires a server o/s - I'm > > using MS SQL, for example. > > > > But yes, separate everything out. 2 web sites in IIS, 2 databases, 2 CF > DB > > connections, etc with very clear and regulated naming conventions. > > > > Jenny Gavin-Wear > > Fast Track Online > > http://www.fasttrackonline.co.uk/ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] > > Sent: 23 April 2011 20:58 > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: IIS Question > > > > > > > > as you are running both development and production on the same server I > > would also suggest you take measures to isolate them as this is a very > bad > > setup you have as your untested development code could take down CF and > > thus > > the live site. > > > > I suggest you run CF multi in server mode and run 2 instances, 1 for live > > and one for dev. > > You should run every site on its own application pool to avoid any iis > > issues. > > > > If you have no idea what any of that means, then you really shouldn't be > > trying to manage a production web server for your client, so you should > > speak with your host about management services or at least a hosting > > control > > panel that will do it for you. For windows I recommend Website Panel. > > > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Dave Watts <dwa...@figleaf.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > But confused if IIS can point to two different drives? How to find > out > > > which drive the IIS point out to.. I hope I am not vague with my > question > > > > > > A single IIS server can have many IIS sites, or virtual servers. These > > > can point to wherever you want them to point. Presumably, this machine > > > has at least two IIS sites. You can view the list of sites in the IIS > > > management console, and can right-click on each as Brian mentioned to > > > see the filesystem location where each points. > > > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > > > > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343933 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
