I don't know, Wil, I think that the topic of tone and tenor of responses to mailing lists (empathy vs correctness in Rick's terminology) is an excellent discussion for a community to have.
In general, I agree with Rick that empathy is a very positive trait to bring to the table (in all aspects of life) and that sometimes being "correct" or "right" can end up with you being viewed as a jerk. However, in this particular case, I disagree that anyone was not treating Irvin with empathy. Several people, myself included, agreed with the empathetic part...that we wish Adobe would spend more time and money promoting CF. Where the disagreement was was in the area of whether CF is dying, what that means, how it should be viewed. At first this was done with respect, by and large, which is surprising since this topic comes up with regularity. Then Irvin came back with bones to pick and decided that Dave was putting up straw man arguments (which was untrue) and perhaps that I didn't like him (which was true by the end of the conversation but I tried not to let that affect my answers). I think that empathy is important and the empathetic reaction to "CF is dying!" is the one that was given here: It is not dying in a sudden and unreasonable fashion, don't panic. Take the skills that you've learned here and learn other languages. This will not only enhance your ability to find work in the future, it will make you a better CF programmer today and a more well rounded person in general. If the sort of empathy that Rick is looking for is more of the "I need to rant about something and have everyone just kinda nod and let it go", then I'd suggest cf-community as a better suited venue. I do think that looking at civility, empathy and tenor of responses on a list is a good subject to muse upon though. Cheers, Judah On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Wil Genovese <[email protected]> wrote: > > ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348687 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

