Its less an issue of being angry than one of preventative medicine. I get
flack when we have a lot of vacation posts to the list. I get flack when
someone posts with a messed up header and stalls the mail server. I get
flack if a message is more than 5 minutes late. I know it sounds like I'm
complaining, but actually I'm not.
I've written a lot of mail processing code to avoid most of the above
mentioned issues. I make it a point to try and solve issues as soon as I see
them. Most of the issues are never seen by the average subscriber and that's
the way it should be. An admin should be invisible.
The post about being banned for a week due to vacation messages was meant
more as a wakeup call than anything else. Lets be totally honest, do I need
the headaches of banning and unbanning people for being careless? No. But in
some extreme cases this is exactly what's needed and a fair warning before
hand would both make people aware of the potential penalty and hopefully
stop them from doing it. If I came off as angry, it was less real anger and
more the style of my post. I'm big on melodrama. :)
> I'm sorry, but I really don't understand why this is such a big issue.
> Fine, someone accidentally sent 200 messages, but it happens. It's hard
to
> understand why hitting delete is such a difficult task. It's nice Michael
> that you host all of these CF lists and I really do appreciate it, but I
> just don't understand why you seem SO angry.
>
> --=@ greg @=--
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:35 AM
> Subject: RE: Vacations and being banned
>
>
> > 2 cases in point. Someone on the JRun talk list (and only that list) had
> > over 200 vacation posts before he was removed. Someone on the CF-Talk
list
> > (and only this list) had over 20 and he was caught early. Both of these
> > cases had two major things in common, the sender was using a
> 'non-standard'
> > subject to announce their vacation AND they were setting their email in
a
> > loop. A post to the list was then sent back to them which resulted in a
> post
> > to the list which was sent back to them...............
> > If I didn't catch it early, we'd have 200 posts on the list in no time
and
> > then I'd be hearing it from everyone.
> > Every time this happens, I post a reminder for people to remove
themselves
> > when they go on vacation. Every reminder is preceded by the (Admin)
header
> > that should say that the post is important. Some people just don't
listen.
> > I did write a filter for the entire list and post (again) about vacation
> > messages but I can't catch everything. On the other hand, due to all
these
> > vacation messages getting to the list the filter is getting better.
> Problem
> > is, it may miss some messages or block those that are not vacation
posts.
> > Maybe a moderation system for 'suspect' posts would be needed. Something
> new
> > to put in. :)
> >
> >
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't see why people get so
angry
> > > about vacation messages. I think it's an honest mistake, and when
you're
> > > subscribed to a dozen lists and looking forward to leaving town I'm
sure
> > > it's easy to forget to change your settings.
> > >
> > > I'm sure of one thing: in the amount of time it takes for people to
> > complain
> > > and call people stupid, the complainers could easily write a filter to
> > > delete vacation messages from their inbox.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Marc Garrett
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 8:43 AM
> > > Subject: (Admin) Vacations and being banned
> > >
> > >
> > > > I really hate being a bad guy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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