now it makes sense. 1k of memory. I can almost do the math in my head.

someone should build a web based IBM 650 computer emulator so that we can 
program in octal absolute... or early versions of assembler.

you know just so when we go to parties with the 60 to 70 (20 somethings in 
the 50's) techie types we can talk about our experience with octal absolute.

(you know start programming on bar napkins... and these days, you might be 
able to load and test your app on your WAP phone.)

ok i'm done.

Eric Dawson

From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: "Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?"
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:00:23 -0800

At 11:52 PM -0500 11/27/01, lsellers wrote:
 >At 10:19 PM 11/27/2001 -0600, you wrote:
 >>huh. I had to check.
 >>
 >>"OCTAL ABSOLUTE: A numbering system using eight as a base instead of two, 
as
 >>in binary, or ten, as in decimal."
 >
 >It used to be all the rage in the 70's. Back when men were real men and
 >programmed in direct machine language. Not that nancy assembly language.
 >
 >--min
 >


ROFLOL

Actually, it was the 50's... IBM came out with it's first assembler
for the IBM 650 computer... it was called SOAP (Symbolic Optimal
Assembler Program).

As I recall, the 650 had 1K of drum memory. Because of the drum,
there was a latency between the fetch of each instruction.  One of
the responsibilities of the programmer (and later the SOAP assembler)
was to properly position the instructions on the drum so that when an
instruction finished executing the next was about to become available
under the drum read/write head... to eliminate latency delay.

The top computer manufacturers of the day were:

    Univac (Remmington) Sperry-Rand

    General Electric-Honeywell

    Burroughs

    NCR

    Control Data

    Alwac

    IBM

    Later, RCA

Dick



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