I couldn't agree more on this, I will admit that I was fired from a
position just recently. I had been working on average 18 hours a day, to
complete a web site on time; the problem was that the company CEO was
not interested in security flaws or anything else that might be a
problem just that he had to have the site done.

Because of the hours and pressure (I was the only developer for about 2
months, as he was a tight ass) I ended up over stressed and was ordered
by my Dr to take time off, and then out of the mid field while I was off
with a certificate boom I was fired because I was not able to finish his
work for him.

In Australia we have new privacy laws that are about to be enforced, I
am not sure on the exact date. But if this guy isn't very careful he
could be sued because it wouldn't take much for a robot to scan the site
for personal details, and that was by just looking at the design of the
site and having a quick look at the html files!!



-----Original Message-----
From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2001 12:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: "Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?"

Kudos!
This thread is most interesting. :)  Just what I needed to wake up and
get
the mind churning.

        There's only one piece of advice I can offer that hasn't been
said
already.  Beware employers who are reluctant to spend money to produce
professional Web sites.  I've created too many bubble gum & scotch tape
products because employers wouldn't shell out the cash needed for a
professional solution.  Budget is always a concern, but professional
projects often require professional tools.  Half baked tools will often
result in half baked products, regardless of your talent or enthusiasm.
Thankfully I work in a place that acknowledges this.

        Hang in there :)

        EC


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 5:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: "Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?"


I still have my very first program, I admit it only prints hello to the
screen. Now if only I could find that binary card reader to read it!!

Octal, Hex, Binary oh they were the days and nothing was really complex
as it is now. Although admittedly I think our lives have become a lot
easier and complex at the same time when it comes to programming.


-----Original Message-----
From: lsellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 3:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: "Why aren't there more CF programmers out there?"

At 10:19 PM 11/27/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>huh. I had to check.
>
>"OCTAL ABSOLUTE: A numbering system using eight as a base instead of
two, as
>in binary, or ten, as in decimal."

It used to be all the rage in the 70's. Back when men were real men and 
programmed in direct machine language. Not that nancy assembly language.

--min




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