Here's my approach for where I live.  I'm in Victoria BC...that's an island
off the west coast of Canada (actually in line with Seattle).  Now things
here are always a bit behind the rest of North Amreica and we have the
"free" technology plague here.  Not many ISPs host CF sites and those that
do don't really advertise it.  So being the carzy CF advocate I am, I get
out there and ram the benefits of CF down as many IT folks throats as I can.
I'm getting lots of converts and additional work for my efforts.

Another thing I've started is tutoring new developers for free that are
coming out of those "all-in-one" technical college classes.  I catch them
when they're new...if they show promise I give them the "ASP is the Devil
speech" and introduce them to "CF will enhance your core being" speech.  Now
some may say that tutoring a few developers while doing full-time
development and operating a business is crazy.  Well mabye so ;-)  but I end
up with new devote followers of CF that I know will write code the way our
company wants before we use them on a project, and will help spread the word
of CF.

So grab a newbie..teach 'em the way you want 'em and take another potential
ASP/PHP developer out of commision ;-)

TMHO

Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Forta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: death of coldfusion


> Mark,
>
> They may be part of it. Or not. Either way it needs to be taken in
context -
> there are far more questions from absolute beginners looking for initial
> help on the Forums then there are posting from doomsayers - that
definitely
> says that folks are not just still using CF, they are also first starting
to
> do so.
>
> I also think that part of the frustration expressed on the Forums is
> frustration at the current economic situation in general. Lots of people
are
> looking for work, and yes, there are more ASP pages and sites out there
than
> CFML pages and sites, and so by default there'll be more ASP work than
CFML
> work.
>
> And while this is not a formal method of measuring interest in a product,
I
> do have my own gauges that I use - hits on my site, numbers of readers and
> sites accessing my CF tips, book sales, etc. And none of those show that
CF
> is dying - on the contrary.
>
> --- Ben
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: death of coldfusion
>
>
> It's just the microsoft lovers trying to stir things up, this happens like
> once every 6 months. Be reasonable and ask yourself would you really kill
a
> language that is growing this fast in popularity that is more effective
than
> the other languages out there? (thats my opinion, I think cf is much
better
> than asp or php)
>
> Macromedia isn't incorporating CF into Dreamweaver for the past 2 version
> for nothing.
>
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