Oh, there's nothing wrong at all with object serialization.  There's 
lots of
good uses for it.  And it's not difficult to map object data with a
relational store.

But, there's a camp out there that think relational databases are obs
olete
because of serialization.  Nutsos.

I definitely agree with you that strong object serialization in a dat
abase
is somewhat, umm, weird.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 13, 2002 4:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: WDDX


> This is funny, because there is a non-unsizeable camp in
> the OO world that would just love to ignore databases and
> serialize all their objects and their data. Yum yum.

My argument isn't for or against object serialization, it's an argume
nt
against storing serialized objects (denormalized data) in a relationa
l
database.

If you build "fixed" objects (that is, if you set a list of what the
properties of your objects may be), you can build object-relational m
appings
pretty easily. You'd typically use EJB components for this in a Java 
web
application, I suppose.

And, if you're using an OO language, there's a greater appeal to the 
idea of
object serialization. You might not use a relational database at all.
However, if you're going to use a relational database, you're usually
 best
served by using it in the way in which it performs best.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
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