Agreed, I had this debate with Sean Corfield awhile ago when I got back into developing Coldfusion, after a 2 year break. And the first thing that I had noticed along the way was that even though as pointed out, Coldfusion can be gotten up and running very quickly.
There is not enough who actually are software engineers, meaning that it places a bigger hole in the market. It is a catch 22 for most of the people who do pick up Coldfusion and find how easy it is, and find that they are better off along the php, or .Net route. I sometimes sit back and watch a project go through its DLC here, under java and find that even though it gets delivered on time and budget. The amount of work sometimes done for the project, and think how quickly it could have been done in Coldfusion. But that is the reality, I doubt we will ever look for a Coldfusion developer to come on board. Because of the fact we are Java primarily, with a few clients still being maintained in CF. Only because we have gone enterprise, and the tools we use can't be fitted into Coldfusion in its current shape. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 9015 8628 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KC Kuok Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 9:25 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? Hi Barry, I think the general feeling is that CF in Australia is on the way out. But for us that keep up to that on the global front know that it will be here to stay. Unfortunately for us it seems CF is not being used as extensively as it should Down Under. The shortage is due to a few factors, most important of which is 1) there are not enough good CF- ers to go around, lets be honest you can get away with spaghetti code in CF, which is a double sided blade. 2) There are not enough companies willing to take on new coders without any prior CF experience and 'train' them... 3) Which leads back to business decisions being made that it is easier (and cheaper salary-wise/ contract-wise) to carry out a project in PHP, as you have a big pool of novice-intermediate PHP coders compared to CF coders. I think for Australia at least, if Adobe 1) Does not enforce lower pricing for CF hosting by their hosting partners 2) push CF to Unis 3) review pricing strategies to gain critical mass, In the long run no matter how great the forthcoming versions of CF is going to be, only big MNCs will use it, and unfortunately their coding teams are usually not based in Australia, hence CF will probably keep becoming sidelined in Australia while others continue to grow. Just my 2 cents :) On Apr 7, 10:27 pm, "Barry Beattie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - came across another recruter today (deliberatly not saying who) who > straight-up said that CF was on the way out. > > and yet they (recruters) are looking for CF'ers and can't easily fill > the positions they've got on their books, converting PHP'ers to fill > positions, and in one case, getting apps made (for their recruting > business) in CFML. > > sigh... --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
