:) good to see that you still respect something that does indeed command respect.
I've just had a big argument with an open source addicted friend of mine about CF8 and it's award winning respectability as middleware in an SOA environment. He wants to use PHP as middleware, even when I said I'd bundle a CF Enterprise license in with his technology stack for free. Some people are just soooo closed. CF8 plays nicely with MS products and should be looked on as a friend more than a foe. That being said I respect .NET, but will always go with CF8 or 7 for that matter over .NET, particularly now with the time to market differences and significant saving in $'s on development hours. Now please and I do say this out of respect, can we not talk .NET in this list, it's not productive and does nothing to foster healthy conversation and nuturing of upcoming CF developers. Competition is needed in a healthy IT environment, choices of technology are what make us strive to be better coders in our chosen technology, and encourage the technology companies to continually make their products better and more competitive. Heck there wouldn't be a Silverlight if it weren't for Flash player. Cheers, R On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To annoy you :) as i know deep down you dislike Microsoft and it just goes > totally against you grain.. > > - > That and I still write a lot of CF code for family/friends and old sites I > still support. I work for the machine, but i still hold to certain > technology from my past ;) > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Rae Buerckner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hi Scott, >> >> I have a question why are you on a CF list? >> >> Cheers, >> >> R >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> Why haven't you used *Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio Express?*it's >>> basically the Enterprise Manager redeux. >>> >>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C243A5AE-4BD1-4E3D-94B8-5A0F62BF7796&displaylang=en >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Actually I've been stuck with VIsual Studio since SQLServer dropped >>>> Enterprise Manager and forced us to have VS. >>>> >>>> I think its the worst application on my machine. It's slow as a rainy >>>> Sunday to load, the documentaion is so appallingly written it's >>>> impossible to figure out how to do anything - i'd do almost anything >>>> to avoid using it. Even use notepad. I have tried many times to >>>> understand what's going on and how to use it properly, and without >>>> success. Any time i try to use the documentation i get so sick of the >>>> endless nested sidetracks ( "... to read more about this click here >>>> ...") that can take me up to 10 links away from what i originally set >>>> out to learn. That's the worst aspect of any of Microsoft's >>>> documentation - no one there (except perhaps you, Scott) seems able to >>>> write a straightforward document in plain easy-to-understand language >>>> about anything. >>>> >>>> So i haven't been able to get that grossly bloated and over=weight >>>> application to do anything for me except uploading databases to my >>>> remote server and bringing them down to my dev machine. >>>> >>>> For anything else I'll run a mile from Visual Studio. I just dont >>>> have enough of my life left remaining to waste trying to figure out >>>> this IDE. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Mike Kear >>>> Windsor, NSW, Australia >>>> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer >>>> AFP Webworks >>>> http://afpwebworks.com >>>> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> hosting from >>>> AUD$15/month >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > I dare you to do it barry. write in Notepad vs VS Studio 2008... >>>> > >>>> > You're on crack if you think VS Studio isn't one of the most power >>>> IDE"s on >>>> > the planet. I'll deflect and absorb a lot of crap around being all >>>> things >>>> > Microsoft, but i've meet die hard Java fanbois through to Adobe >>>> staffers >>>> > whom have all agreed - Visual Studio is powerful. Now if it's not your >>>> cup >>>> > of tea, that's cool but "spagetti code" ... you = epic fail :) >>>> > btw do you ever stop whining about Microsoft? you grumpy muso :) >>>> heheh. >>>> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Barry Beattie < >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> is this turning into a Frameworks Vs tools debate? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
