Because in all the times i've bitched to various people about Visual
Studio, not a single person has mentioned it until now.  And i'm
talking about MS Support people and the people at Partner services.
They should have known such a product existed.

When we were told we had to lose EntMgr, we were told then that we had
to get used to Visual Studio - that's the only way to manage SQL2005
databases.

No one on the SQL List has mentioned it either so they probably dont
konw about it.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why haven't you used Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio Express? it's
> basically the Enterprise Manager redeux.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C243A5AE-4BD1-4E3D-94B8-5A0F62BF7796&displaylang=en
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Actually I've been stuck with VIsual Studio since SQLServer dropped
>> Enterprise Manager and forced us to have VS.
>>
>> I think its the worst application on my machine.  It's slow as a rainy
>> Sunday to load, the documentaion is so appallingly written it's
>> impossible to figure out how to do anything  - i'd do almost anything
>> to avoid using it.   Even use notepad.  I have tried many times to
>> understand what's going on and how to use it properly, and without
>> success.  Any time i try to use the documentation i get so sick of the
>> endless nested sidetracks ( "... to read more about this click here
>> ...") that can take me up to 10 links away from what i originally set
>> out to learn.    That's the worst aspect of any of Microsoft's
>> documentation - no one there (except perhaps you, Scott) seems able to
>> write a straightforward document in plain easy-to-understand language
>> about anything.
>>
>> So i haven't been able to get that grossly bloated and over=weight
>> application to do anything for me except uploading databases to my
>> remote server and bringing them down to my dev machine.
>>
>> For anything else I'll run a mile from Visual Studio.  I just dont
>> have enough of my life left remaining to waste trying to figure out
>> this IDE.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mike Kear
>> Windsor, NSW, Australia
>> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>> AFP Webworks
>> http://afpwebworks.com
>> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > I dare you to do it barry. write in Notepad vs VS Studio 2008...
>> >
>> > You're on crack if you think VS Studio isn't one of the most power IDE"s
>> > on
>> > the planet. I'll deflect and absorb a lot of crap around being all
>> > things
>> > Microsoft, but i've meet die hard Java fanbois through to Adobe staffers
>> > whom have all agreed - Visual Studio is powerful. Now if it's not your
>> > cup
>> > of tea, that's cool but "spagetti code" ... you = epic fail :)
>> > btw do you ever stop whining about Microsoft? you grumpy muso :) heheh.
>> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Barry Beattie
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> is this turning into a Frameworks Vs tools debate?
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>



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