I hope they do read it and develop a clue about handling us developers. When you think about it, you could contribute the negative ripple effects that a bad developer has on the industry.
Scenario ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Recruitment firm head hunts some clown who they have no idea has the experience needed for the original position. All they care about was that his flags in the recruitment database came up positive, hence put him/her in the position. The candidate is put forward to the employer, the employer generallly is some head exect / IT manager who really has no idea what the hell "Coldfusion" developer actually does, but have been given the task of hiring a "web developer". He/She fires off stupid questions like "rate your skills between 1 and 10, 10 being the highest.." to which the clown replies "8".. (he's such a clown he doesn't even rate himself high) The employer thinks "shit.. this guy sounds intelligent".. so he/she hires him. 2 months later, the clown gets fired because he just hasn't a clue and they later learn he's an ACCESS / ,NET programmer who has no idea really about CF... but is willing to learn.... I blame firstly the Recruitment company THEN the employer as the job of the recruitment company is to weed out and find the best that the market has to offer at that exact moment sourcing candidates.. P.S This actually happened. Scott "Blake Foss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:22806@cfaussie... > > Trent, > > I WOULD NOT POST ANYTHING FROM THESE FORUMS TO ANOTHER FORUM OR PASS ON > INFORMATION SUCH AS THIS TOPIC TO AN AGENCY. > > The comments about going taking my complaints to an agency were in past > tense. I did that at the end of last year and it was just little old me > against the world. > > But, here is a thought for you. Did you ever think that MAYBE recruiting > agents subscribe to these types of lists to see who the developers are > and follow who posts the most solutions. If I was a recruiting agent > what better way to find out who the developers are and the active ones. > > Blake > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----------- > Blake Foss > Web Foot Forward > p: 61 2 9340 4401 > f: 61 2 8080 8190 > m: 0410 747 620 > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Trent > Shepherd > Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 9:21 AM > To: CFAussie Mailing List > Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Who knows all this stuff?? > > > Blake, > Well like I hope my name was assigned to the agencies that you forwarded > it to. I don't want everyone in the world to know that I'm a closet > commie, unwiling to be subjugated to capitalist system of exploitation. > So I hope it does not harm my chances of futher emmployment, Mate!!! > > trent > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Blake Foss - Web Foot Forward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "CFAussie Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:50:38 +1100 > > >I have gone direct to these agencies with these complaints and comments > > >as well as to a couple of recruiting web sites. None of them replied. > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- > >----------- > >Blake Foss > >Web Foot Forward > >p: 61 2 9340 4401 > >f: 61 2 8080 8190 > >m: 0410 747 620 > >e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark M > >Sent: Sunday, 9 February 2003 2:30 AM > >To: CFAussie Mailing List > >Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Who knows all this stuff?? > > > > > >Maybe someone should anonymously post a log of this entire conversation > > >to the employment agency in question. > > > >Or maybe not so anonymously, I would be interested to see what sort of > >response they would have. > > > >Mark > > > >-- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >ICQ: 3094740 > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Trent > >Shepherd > >Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2003 9:31 PM > >To: CFAussie Mailing List > >Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Who knows all this stuff?? > > > >I've often thought the same thing, "who does know all this stuff" I > >have meet some extremely talented and hard working people who impressed > > >me greatly with their knowledge but that sort of knowledge I have yet > >tot meet. May I suggest that agents and those of the same mentality > >grab some understanding of the "division of labour" by reading Das > >Kapital, Part 2 > > > > > >Cheers > > > >trent > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Steve > >Onnis > >Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:33 PM > >To: CFAussie Mailing List > >Subject: [cfaussie] Who knows all this stuff?? > > > >Hey guys > > > >Just curious about something. Just saw an add for a web developer > >position and this is what they required. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >- > >----------- > >. Experiences in all of the following technologies are ideally > required: > >HTML, DHTML, CCS, ASP or ASP.Net, Cold Fusion (4.5 or later), ADO (2.1 > >or later), Transact SQL, VB or VB.Net, VBA and Win32 API. > >. Experience in Java, VC++ or C#, VJ++ of J# is highly desirable. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > >----------- > > > >Does anyone on this list know all of this stuff? > > > >I would expect that people would have knowledge of about half of whats > >listed. > > > >Regards > >Steve Onnis > >Domain Concept Designs > >+61 422 337 685 > >+61 3 9431 4249 > > > > <http://www.domainconceptdesigns.com/> > >http://www.domainconceptdesigns.com > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <http://www.domainconceptdesigns.com/images/blank.gif> > > <http://www.cfcentral.com.au/> http://www.cfcentral.com.au > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ><http://www.domainconceptdesigns.com/email_signatures/mail_dcd_logo.jpg > >> > > > > > > <http://www.domainconceptdesigns.com/email_signatures/bolt.gif> > >("If you think it can't be done, you haven't asked me!") - Steve Onnis > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > > > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To > >unsubscribe send a blank email to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To > unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > > > > --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/
