You guys are way over complicating this. The issue is not Coldfusion
jobs, the issue I think is the side work. 

Sean pointed out that the PHP hype is handled by the developers, that is
very true. A PHP developer can walk into any office and say "I can
automate that" and they say, "But we can't afford a server", and the
developer responds, "I will give you a server, plus I can have the
server handle your email and other services". Then they go pull
something out of the bin. This is what spreads PHP.

Now translate this to the CF world. Unless you don't mind using a
sub-par CF replacement like Blue Dragon, the small business just has way
too much investment to make a simple project work.

PHP and ASP developers just have a bigger pool to dip into. Most
developers in their prime are working a 50 hour week at their job and
then putting in 40 hours of side work. You take away that side work and
you get a lot of idle hands.

Nobody here would be saying anything if they were pulling in a couple of
grand a month in under the table money outside their job.

Ryan Bouwens - 907-729-5471

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Sean,

It is all catch 22, if there are no jobs the market suffers. As far as
jobs
goes I stated to you that the ASP, .Net, and java jobs are increasing in
Australia and Coldfusion is not.

How can a developer support a technology that is the life blood income,
when
there is no work for them in this field of choosing?

No jobs means moving to the flavour that has the work, ASP and .Net in
Australia is increasing so people learn this and nothing else.

I strongly love Coldfusion and its ease of use, but I and other
developers
need to survive and put food on the table, coldfusion is not enabling us
developers to really do this because the work is not there:-)



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