> CF's beauty is that ANY Joe can start coding in minutes -

Actually its CF's beauty and its chief fault. Because its easy to pick up and knock out something that works right quickly I keep inheriting code thats really crap from a maintenance point of view.

We need to tell clients this up front.

I am not kidding here. I saw Ben Forta quoted as saying 'Most CF coders write spagetti code'

I saw this in a job I am doing now - cfinclude template = "../Application.cfm"

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