Well, if you want to see OO in different languages, I'd look at:
Java - high ceremony, good for large apps
Ruby - low ceremony - very dynamic. Just remember not to blow your leg  
off
Smalltalk - The granddaddy of OO languages but still used in some  
domains. Check out seaside for a continuation based web server. Very  
interesting and I'm hearing it scales better than I'd have expected. I  
think it'd dabbleDB that was written in Seaside.

Best Wishes,
Peter

On Jun 24, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Dan Vega wrote:

> Adam,
> I am sure you going to hear some slack for that but I am huge fan of  
> what you just said. In Hal Helm's presentation he noted that we  
> really need to quite being so data centric when thinking of OO  
> development. MVC is a great start for people to solve a specific  
> problem but everyone really needs to stop following everyone and  
> thinking that 5 cfcs are OO development. I am doing a lot of  
> research at the moment about OO in other languages and hope to share  
> my findings soon.
>
> Thank You
> Dan Vega
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.danvega.org
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
> At the end of the day we all need to stop talking about DOA and  
> Gateways and all this Database crap as much as we do. Its old,  
> trite, and quite honestly doesn't make a hill of beans difference  
> most of the time. Honestly, ask yourself, "How many applications  
> would I have been completely screwed if I chose to split my gateway  
> and DAO up, or vice versa?" If you have a use case for that please  
> by all means share it I'd love to hear it. If all we are concerned  
> about is DAO or gateway then chances are something else, much more  
> important, is being overlooked (not pointing fingers at anyone  
> here :) ). If all you are doing is a large reporting app chances are  
> you don't need to be doing complete OO anyway, yes I know sacrilege.  
> Its true though ColdFusion is perfect for reporting without the  
> heavy OO we try to apply to it in too many cases. Thinking back  
> through some of the reporting apps I did and shoehorning them into  
> an OO architecture I can confidently say I should have stuck with a  
> light version of MVC and moved on.
>
> Adam Haskell
>
>
>
> >


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