The longer conjugate works well for me (except for the covering + of
course).

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:43 PM, bob therriault <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Catherine,
>
> I had forgotten about the golden halo, it may reappear as a way to lead the
> viewer's eye, without obscuring the data :)
>
> The example I was referring to in my previous email was the larger, longer
> version of Conjugate here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K4RzOe2rTk but
> I certainly appreciate the feedback on plus3 as well. I am working on a
> similar version (longer and larger) for Plus (+) as well. At some point
> we'll get to a style that works, and it should be easier to extend to the
> different J primitive verbs. What are your thoughts on the 'Dance mix' of
> Conjugate (+) at the previous link?
>
> Cheers, bob
>
> On -Mar17-2010, at -Mar17-20109:27 AM, Catherine Lathwell wrote:
>
> > I do like plus 3 much better.  The pace and timing feel fine.
> >
> > I went back to look at the previous versions because I had such a strong
> > emotional reaction to the plus covering up the numbers.   Guess what?  It
> > still really bothers me.  I have no idea why, but I have a very strong
> > frustrated feeling when that plus covers up the numbers.
> >
> > And guess what? In your conjugate animation, where the plus covers the
> > numbers, this bugs me too.  But the feeling isn't as strong.  It's more
> like
> > a vague bugging feeling opposed to a flash of intense frustration.  :)
> >
> > What was wrong with the gold halo you gave numbers in that video with the
> > sparkles that no one except me liked?
> >
> > C
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:09 PM, bob therriault <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hey everyone,
> >>
> >> The longer and larger version of Conjugate is now posted at:
> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Vocabulary/plus
> >> Comments regarding speed, movement, content and clarity are welcome
> >> (especially from newcomers). Is this a useful animation?
> >>
> >> Cheers, bob
> >>
> >> On -Mar12-2010, at -Mar12-20108:17 AM, bob therriault wrote:
> >>
> >>> I love that quote Catherine,
> >>>
> >>> Going back to your frustration at  the 'hiding' of the Conjugate (+)
> >> operation in vectors and matrices, I realized last night that the
> solution
> >> may not be in showing the way the individual instances of Conjugate work
> on
> >> each atom of a matrix, but by using more scalar examples initially to
> show a
> >> wider range of inputs and outputs for Conjugate.
> >>>
> >>> Today, i'll work at putting together a 'Club Mix' of the shorter
> >> animation. It'll have more examples, be larger and run a little longer.
> This
> >> might be a bridge between the short reference version and the longer
> >> tutorial version that may include interaction and/or voice-over. If both
> >> versions were kept on the reference page the user would have a choice
> >> between a quick check, or a more extended description.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, bob
> >>>
> >>> On -Mar11-2010, at -Mar11-20104:14 PM, Catherine Lathwell wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> To quote Ken, when I first talked to him about the doc project...
> "Maybe
> >> all
> >>>> that Art School is good for something after all!"  :)
> >>>>
> >>>> shhhhhh.... don't tell I didn't know how J does minus!  :)
> >>>>
> >>>> C
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Catherine - APL uses the same character for the same thing - it's
> just
> >>>>> positioned differently.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW - your feedback is particularly valuable - please continue...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Devon
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Catherine Lathwell <
> >> [email protected]
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What's the deal with the _ character?  Is this how J works these
> days?
> >>>>> I'm
> >>>>>> not really up on the J vocabulary, so I didn't understand conjugate
> >>>>> before
> >>>>>> this... so it took me a couple of runs to figure out that it's
> *minus
> >>>>> *you
> >>>>>> mean. My first few rounds, I was scratching my head trying to figure
> >> out
> >>>>>> what the heck you need an underscore in your number for.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Devon McCormick, CFA
> >>>>> ^me^ at acm.
> >>>>> org is my
> >>>>> preferred e-mail
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