Hi Catherine,

I had forgotten about the golden halo, it may reappear as a way to lead the 
viewer's eye, without obscuring the data :)  

The example I was referring to in my previous email was the larger, longer 
version of Conjugate here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K4RzOe2rTk but I 
certainly appreciate the feedback on plus3 as well. I am working on a similar 
version (longer and larger) for Plus (+) as well. At some point we'll get to a 
style that works, and it should be easier to extend to the different J 
primitive verbs. What are your thoughts on the 'Dance mix' of Conjugate (+) at 
the previous link?

Cheers, bob

On -Mar17-2010, at -Mar17-20109:27 AM, Catherine Lathwell wrote:

> I do like plus 3 much better.  The pace and timing feel fine.
> 
> I went back to look at the previous versions because I had such a strong
> emotional reaction to the plus covering up the numbers.   Guess what?  It
> still really bothers me.  I have no idea why, but I have a very strong
> frustrated feeling when that plus covers up the numbers.
> 
> And guess what? In your conjugate animation, where the plus covers the
> numbers, this bugs me too.  But the feeling isn't as strong.  It's more like
> a vague bugging feeling opposed to a flash of intense frustration.  :)
> 
> What was wrong with the gold halo you gave numbers in that video with the
> sparkles that no one except me liked?
> 
> C
> 
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:09 PM, bob therriault <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> Hey everyone,
>> 
>> The longer and larger version of Conjugate is now posted at:
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Vocabulary/plus
>> Comments regarding speed, movement, content and clarity are welcome
>> (especially from newcomers). Is this a useful animation?
>> 
>> Cheers, bob
>> 
>> On -Mar12-2010, at -Mar12-20108:17 AM, bob therriault wrote:
>> 
>>> I love that quote Catherine,
>>> 
>>> Going back to your frustration at  the 'hiding' of the Conjugate (+)
>> operation in vectors and matrices, I realized last night that the solution
>> may not be in showing the way the individual instances of Conjugate work on
>> each atom of a matrix, but by using more scalar examples initially to show a
>> wider range of inputs and outputs for Conjugate.
>>> 
>>> Today, i'll work at putting together a 'Club Mix' of the shorter
>> animation. It'll have more examples, be larger and run a little longer. This
>> might be a bridge between the short reference version and the longer
>> tutorial version that may include interaction and/or voice-over. If both
>> versions were kept on the reference page the user would have a choice
>> between a quick check, or a more extended description.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, bob
>>> 
>>> On -Mar11-2010, at -Mar11-20104:14 PM, Catherine Lathwell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> To quote Ken, when I first talked to him about the doc project... "Maybe
>> all
>>>> that Art School is good for something after all!"  :)
>>>> 
>>>> shhhhhh.... don't tell I didn't know how J does minus!  :)
>>>> 
>>>> C
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Catherine - APL uses the same character for the same thing - it's just
>>>>> positioned differently.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW - your feedback is particularly valuable - please continue...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Devon
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Catherine Lathwell <
>> [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What's the deal with the _ character?  Is this how J works these days?
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> not really up on the J vocabulary, so I didn't understand conjugate
>>>>> before
>>>>>> this... so it took me a couple of runs to figure out that it's *minus
>>>>> *you
>>>>>> mean. My first few rounds, I was scratching my head trying to figure
>> out
>>>>>> what the heck you need an underscore in your number for.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
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