Thanks.  One of the reason I ask is because of my hearing loss. I spoke with
an organization that trains SD and you can't use your own dogs, the dogs are
ones they have chosen and worked with and the cost of a program like that is
way out of most people's reach.  I mean it is something like 24,000.00 to
get a trained SD.  
 
And yes that is what I meant by training.  I figured if a dog was going to
be a therapy dog then he had to be trained to do what he is suppose to, just
like a sd.  I would not even know where to begin to train my dog to alert me
to things that I can't hear.
 
Sheila
 
 
 

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depends on what you mean by training. Dogs used as therapy dogs are NOT just
dogs that a person feels comfortable having them around or that the dog
makes them feel good. They actually are trained to notice things that are
causing a stressful reaction, they pick up on body language, even pulse and
heart beat, ect and react accordingly. Most of this comes natural to a dog,
but the training is the part that fine tunes those natural tendencies and
teaches a dog how to put those tendencies to work. Let me give an example to
make it clearer. Dogs are now being used to detect certain kinds of cancer.
Now this detection comes naturally to a dog, but if we take our run of the
mill dog into a cancer ward, while they may detect that something isn't
right, they do not know how to convey that to someone or even consider that
it needs conveyed. But a dog that has been trained, knows they are there to
detect that cancer and knows that they need to alert the proper person to
that fact and they know HOW to alert them. The same goes with therapy dogs,
seizure alert dogs, and even hearing dogs, ect. It is so much more than just
bringing comfort....it is a matter of acting on the natural tendencies. "Hey
my person is suddenly showing signs of extreme distress, I need to make sure
they know how their body is reacting and then I need to do my job of leading
the person from the area or holding the person still, or even causing the
person to focus on my eyes to distract them from what is going on around
them"
 
So yes, training is necessary to fine tune those skills and to make sure
that both SD and handler knows what is being conveyed, but that doesn't mean
that a professional dog trainer has to be the one to do that. Many people
with a disability choose to train their own SD because they can be more
specific to their own needs than to what is generally needed by a person
with the same disability. 
 
And ALL SD's need to have proper obedience training of course, 
 
Man, get me started on the subject of SD's and I will talk your head off,
lol....
 
Marsha
 

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ok certification aside, which is really just a piece of paper.   Do They do
need special training to be a therapy dog like they do to be service dogs?
 
Sheila
 

 
 

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You can certify a therapy dog, but it is not required. In fact,
certification is not required of any SD under the ADA. Some states do have a
cert requirement, but if those cases are ever taken before the Supreme
Court, the state will loose because ADA is federal law and trumps state and
the ADA says that all that is required is that the animal (not even required
to be a dog) meet a legitimate and recognized need to enable a person with a
legitimate and recognized disability to fully participate in things that a
non disabled person can participate in. OTSD's (owner trained service dogs)
are as a legitimate as a certified one. Bottom line,...is the person
disabled and does the dog assist with that disability?
Marsha
 

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Can you just certify a therapy dog?  I mean don't they need special training
like a service dog does?
 
Sheila
 

 
 


 



  (My daughter has actually been looking into getting Rein "certified" so
that I would have proof as to what she does.)
 
I can understand how angry the "fakers" make you and I would take a stand
against them also, but I assure you I'm not one of them.
 
Mindy

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