I am very active in rescue, so I DO understand what drives you. Unfortunately, 
there are too many uncaring breeders out there and it does give legitimate 
breeders a bad rep. I am an animal fanatic. I am a vegetarian, don't use animal 
products (no leather, fur, ect...do you know how hard it is to find sneakers 
that are non leather!)  or products tested on animals, ect.....but I also LOVE 
a full chi puppy!! And as long as I can properly care for my chis, can produce 
quality pups that go to loving forever homes, then I will continue to breed 
Chihuahuas. Non of my females ever have more than 4 litters and non are bred 
till they are old ladies.....Any pup I produce has an open invitation to be 
returned, no questions asked, if the person decides they can no longer care for 
them. Hey, even my SD is a chi! (neutered, of course) lol
Marsha

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Norma Jean 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Chihuahuas] OFFER: Chuhuahua at lower price KY


  Thank you for explaining Marsha, I am partial to full Chis also and we have 4 
chis, 2 are rescues, one was gotten thru this group. Ia m active in trying to 
find unwanted animals forever homes and sometimes I simply have to step back 
and get away from it for at least 24 hours as it breaks my heart over and over. 
I wasn't putting you down and if it sounded like I was then I apologize I was 
simply curious....normajean

  marsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


    And very easily explained. Chihuahuas are a breed close to my heart. I have 
had dogs and other kinds of pets all my life but Chihuahuas have touched a 
special place. I had them for 10 years before I started breeding them. Why 
breed? Because if no one purposely breeds a particular breed, then eventually 
the breed will be lost. I love a mutt or mixed breed, I have had and still have 
several of them, but chis are special to me the same as other breeds may be 
special to other breeders. I don't want to loose the Chihuahua breed just 
because some people think there are too many thus no one should breed. I don't 
want a world in which all we have is mixed breeds. In order to keep the 
Chihuahua breed, there must be Chihuahua breeders (same goes for other breeds) 

    So why not just give the pups away? Well, for one, as I stated before, 
people appreciate and better care for that which they have a financial 
investment in. Secondly, I have a lot invested in my dogs...all my dogs...as 
well as my other pets. It cost money to feed and vet them, it cost money to 
advertise them. Proper breeding is NOT cheap. It is very rare for a serious and 
ethical breeder to make a profit. Sure, they may come out ahead on one litter, 
but then loose their shirt on the next. There is no profit to be made, but you 
can't expect us to just keep putting money in and not getting anything back. 

    Maybe you are one who is just as happy with a chi mix from a shelter...and 
if so, that is great...I have one myself...but I also want the characteristics 
that comes only from a full blooded Chihuahua. IT is my breed, my chosen breed. 
All I have ever bred and all I ever will breed. For me, personally, and for 
many other's, Chihuahuas rule!   And p.s , all my pets, with the exception of 
my breeding stock chis, ARE spayed/neutered.

    Marsha

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Norma Jean 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:36 PM
      Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Chihuahuas] OFFER: Chuhuahua at lower price KY


      I am a firm believer in spaying and neutering but I would like to ask 
something, towards the end of the post below you say "I do not breed for money, 
however I am not going to give away"...why else would people breed dogs when 
they know how over-populated the world is with homeless animals if it wasn't 
for money??? I assure you I am not being mean nor do I want to start an 
argument but that remark "I don't breed for money however I am not going to 
give away" just seems kind of  odd to me...normajean

      marsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

        It is true that people are more willing to properly care for something 
they have a financial investment in...which is why even rescue groups charge an 
adoption fee. You have an adorable pup and in the right location, he is well 
worth what you are asking. At the same time, while it is not all about money, 
one does have to take money into consideration. I think it is perfectly 
understandable that you want to recoup some of the investment you have in the 
pup. And, I think that the fact that you are not willing to ship shows that 
money is not your priority. If you were willing to ship, you would get all your 
money back with no problem.. It is all a matter of trying to balance the best 
interest of the pup with the realities of the pocket book. Finances ARE a fact 
of life. Just like me...if I had $300 I would buy him, but my financial reality 
is that at this moment I don't have that kind of money. Just keep working on 
meeting that balance between wanting what is best for the pup AND trying not to 
be ripped off. Don't feel bad just because you expect some financial 
consideration to be paid. I don't breed for the money, but I am not gonna just 
give my pups away! (although I have given a few away in special cases for 
special reasons)
        Marsha

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: lisa 
          To: [email protected] 
          Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:43 PM
          Subject: RE: [SPAM] Re: [Chihuahuas] OFFER: Chuhuahua at lower price 
KY


          I have shared with those that have asked. Geese.if I didn't care I 
would have already given him away, isn't it true that people are more likely to 
take better care of things they pay more for? 

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          From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Michelle
          Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 7:49 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Chihuahuas] OFFER: Chuhuahua at lower price KY
          I hate to say it, but this thread has really bothered me. The focus
          is all on price and how much money can be gotten for this little dog
          rather than finding him a GOOD HOME. You made a commitment to him and
          that needs to be honored.

          "This is Chip! He is for sale to highest offer." This is taken
          directly from your online ad. 

          No real info has been shared about the dog as far as personality,
          likes, etc. Does the pup do well with children or other dogs? How
          trained is he? Is he neutered? 

          And other than $$ this discussion has done little towards how to find
          a suitable home for him. You will want to be sure to screen potential
          new owners so that Chip isn't in another ad in a few months being
          re-homed. Taking on a pet is big responsibility. This is more than a
          matter of how much can you get for this dog. 

          I understand that sometimes situations make it so that you have to
          rehome an animal. I would just really like to see Chips wellbeing
          take a little more center stage here. 

          Michelle And Sugar









   

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