My Cesar is 10 months old and at 11 weeks, he trained to a litter box,  which 
he still uses when he is indoors but he will also go outside when I put  him 
out at the correct time.  I never tried the crate training, instead I  used a 
fenced in area (I call it a corral).  I still put him in the corral  when I am 
going to be gone, he has the run of the den (and only the den) when I  am 
home.  Sometimes, he might miss the mark a little when he's using the  litter 
box 
but he has never pooped or peed anywhere else in the house/den.
 
Gloria



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