My chis cant hold it for that long The bigger ones a litle longer but Brutus 4 1/2 lb maby 4 houers.My Vet told me the same but that was years ago when i hat my Rottweiler.I dont belive a chi can hold it that long God bless you.Claudia
----- Original Message ---- From: Jerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:47:40 PM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Hello and help I know a vet told me years ago that a dog shouldn't go for more than 8 hours in a crate. Having to hold it too long can damage their kidneys, although it sounds like your terriers lived to a nice old age. My neighbor had trouble training her little dog, and someone recommended to her keeping it on a leash with her at all times. When I have a new foster dog, they are confined to the laundry room or on a short leash until they are trustworthy. I'm not sure how you'd do that with two though. Jerri www.beadbimbo. com ----- Original Message ----- From: xerxes_23909 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: [Chihuahuas] Hello and help Hello fellow owners, I am new to the group and glad I found you. A friend gave me a male and female from the same litter and they are now 14 months old. I received them in February paper trained. I decided to crate train them to house break them and right now it is Tippy and Babs, 10 Owner 0. They do fairly well in their crates but if I let them roam the kitchen (they are gated in the kitchen when I am home) there will be accidents. I had two terriers (bro and sis) that died this past winter at 16 and they were crate trained in a month and could hold it for up to 13 hours without an accident. Does any one have a possible solution to help me finish crate training/house breaking 14 month old Babs and Tippy? Thanks, Frank ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

